Speeding

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by RichardA, Aug 7, 2009.

  1. RichardA

    Ace Guest

    Of course you realise that while the points may have beed removed from
    the totting-up perspective, the endorsement (as it used to be called)
    is still there, and the offences still need to be declared to insco or
    plod if they ask.
     
    Ace, Aug 7, 2009
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  2. What's wrong with drink driving?
     
    Paul Carmichael, Aug 7, 2009
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  3. RichardA

    Beav Guest

    It's mandatory for 30mph over the limit.

    I suspect the "luck" was in just getting a 140 quid slap on the wrist and
    ONLY a 28 day ban.

    I could be wrong, but I seem to remember that if you get a ban, you don't
    get points too, but like I say....

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    Beav, Aug 7, 2009
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  4. RichardA

    TOG@Toil Guest

    It's not, you know. Magistrates' guidelines recommend it, but plenty
    of people have done 30+ and escaped a ban.
    Yes, I'd agree. Low fine and a short ban: result, I'd say.
     
    TOG@Toil, Aug 7, 2009
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  5. RichardA

    TOG@Toil Guest

    You might spill it.
     
    TOG@Toil, Aug 7, 2009
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  6. RichardA

    Eiron Guest

    No. Time has given the government an opportunity to change the rules.
    I must admit that I didn't know they had changed but it doesn't really
    matter to an old git with a clean licence.
    There doesn't seem to be anything definitive on the DVLA website.
     
    Eiron, Aug 7, 2009
    #26
  7. My Dad being one of them - caught doing 125 (ish). He was decelerating
    hard at the time..

    Managed to get away with an eye-watering fine and 9 points on his
    (hitherto-clean) license.

    Admittedly this was a fair few years ago.

    Phil.
     
    Phil Launchbury, Aug 7, 2009
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  8. RichardA

    ogden Guest

    Christ, I'd rather take a 6 week ban than 9 points.

    I spent a year on 9 points and it was horrible. Knowing that one minor
    slip-up would score me 6 months on public transport and make insurance a
    pain for the next five years.
     
    ogden, Aug 7, 2009
    #28
  9. I can remember as a kid, actually thinking that the "don't drink and
    drive" thing was because it was dangerous to take one's eyes off the road
    to take a swig. Didn't help that my dad confirmed my belief. He also told
    me it was much harder to drive uphill as one has to push the throttle
    pedal down so much harder. Such larks, Pip.
     
    Paul Carmichael, Aug 7, 2009
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  10. RichardA

    Switters Guest

    Does one get the choice?

    Maybe it was a deliberate decision by the magistrate for the reasons you
    elaborated on.
     
    Switters, Aug 7, 2009
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  11. RichardA

    ogden Guest

    The margin varies by limit broken and it's not attendance at court that
    becomes mandatory, it's fixed penalties that become non-applicable.

    On a motorway anything up to 95mph can be dealt with by FPN. Anything
    over that is summons territory.
     
    ogden, Aug 7, 2009
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  12. RichardA

    ogden Guest

    Probably depends how bored they are.
     
    ogden, Aug 7, 2009
    #32
  13. RichardA

    CT Guest

    Probably just luck. He probably had somewhere to get to PDQ, and
    stopping you would have just delayed him.
     
    CT, Aug 7, 2009
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  14. I've already got 12 points on mine.
     
    Paul Carmichael, Aug 7, 2009
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  15. RichardA

    wessie Guest

    goody 2 shoes
     
    wessie, Aug 7, 2009
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  16. RichardA

    RichardA Guest

    The magistrates said they'd taken into account he'd pleaded guilty
    and that he was presently on JobSeekers Allowance. Also the officers
    report said driving conditions were good ( sunny, dry road and very
    light traffic).

    They also noted he already had three points on his licence but as
    they expired within four days they wouldn't take them into account.

    As some have said it could have been a lot worse.
     
    RichardA, Aug 7, 2009
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  17. RichardA

    ginge Guest

    94.
     
    ginge, Aug 7, 2009
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  18. RichardA

    ogden Guest

    It's not quite that simple. It depends on the speed limit you've broken:

    Limit Speed at which you're looking at a summons rather than FPN
    20 35
    30 50
    40 66
    50 76
    60 86
    70 96

    http://www.pepipoo.com/files/ACPO/ACPO_enforcement_guidelines.htm

    Once in court, these are the sentencing guidelines:

    http://www.sentencing-
    guidelines.gov.uk/docs/magistrates_court_sentencing_guidelines_update.pd
    f
     
    ogden, Aug 7, 2009
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  19. RichardA

    Nige Guest

    What, no guidline for 180? Sweet, must be time to flout the law again soon
    then...

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    Nige, Aug 7, 2009
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  20. RichardA

    ogden Guest

    I'd read the fact that the speeding guidelines stop at 110 as meaning
    you can expect them to try and throw careless or dangerous at you for
    111. Guidelines for which are in the same document.
     
    ogden, Aug 7, 2009
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