speedometers

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by steve robinson, May 22, 2005.

  1. Any one know tolerances allowed on speedometers between recorded and actual
    speed and would sat nav be more accurate

    thanks

    Steve
     
    steve robinson, May 22, 2005
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    Boots Blakeley, May 22, 2005
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  3. steve robinson

    RJAG Guest

    police are supposed to allow 10% + 2mph. so in a 30mph area you could be ok
    until 35mph but don't put a lot of faith in it. we have a sign with a speed
    checking display (in a local industrial estate) but it never reads the same
    for two vehicles so its very hit and miss.

    R
     
    RJAG, May 23, 2005
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  4. steve robinson

    Slider Guest

    In
    If sat nav uses GPS, it's not going to care how fast your bike thinks it's
    going.
     
    Slider, May 23, 2005
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  5. steve robinson

    Eiron Guest

    The mythical 10% + 2mph refers to your actual speed so if your speedo
    overreads by 10% you could be ok up to an indicated 38mph
    (but don't put any faith in it.)

    Calibrate your speedo with sticky tape and a GPS. YKIMS.
     
    Eiron, May 23, 2005
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  6. steve robinson

    gazzafield Guest


    AIUI the construction & use regulations stipulate that a speedometer may
    never under read. A tolerance of 10% or so is allowed for it to over
    read. I could of course be completely wrong.
     
    gazzafield, May 23, 2005
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  7. steve robinson

    Pip Guest

    A bit of context in your reply is nice, then it is easy to see what
    you are on about.
    Bollocks. You can't have both, man.

    The Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) guideline is that
    nobody should be done for exceeding the speed limit by less than 10% +
    2mph. I believe that roadside cameras are set to this sort of figure.
    However, there have been cases reported of drivers being prosecuted
    for speeds only just over the posted limit, so draw your own
    conclusions.

    You would not get away with adding another 10%, though. A vehicle's
    speedometer is allowed to over-read by up to 10% (presumably to allow
    for manufacturing inaccuracy and possibly tyre wear) but must not
    under-read.
     
    Pip, May 23, 2005
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  8. Wasn't the bike , it was the van Speedo way way out methinks time to have a
    chat with Mr PSA
     
    steve robinson, May 23, 2005
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  9. steve robinson

    dwb Guest

    Supposed is the wrong word. "Generally" is better - as Pip mentions it
    was/is an ACPO suggestion.
     
    dwb, May 23, 2005
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  10. steve robinson

    tallbloke Guest

    A speedo which underreads is what the cops allow for.

    i.e. speedo underreading by 10%, reads 32, actual speed is 35.

    You're not going to get away with 38.
     
    tallbloke, May 23, 2005
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  11. steve robinson

    tallbloke Guest

    If your speedo overreads by 10% and you are doing 38 the speedo would be
    reading ~42 n'est pas?
     
    tallbloke, May 23, 2005
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  12. steve robinson

    dwb Guest

    And about 30% when you get up to 150 :)

    Considering speedos are genernally digital these days, what do you reckon
    the formula used is and why do they make it larger the higher the speed?
     
    dwb, May 23, 2005
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  13. steve robinson

    tallbloke Guest

    But wouldn't an indicated 38 be at least 34, i.e. 2mph more than the 2
    mph allowed by the ACPO guidelines?

    Or is my maths letting me down?
     
    tallbloke, May 23, 2005
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  14. steve robinson

    Pip Guest

    No, it won't. As you just pointed out, it will be reading 38.5mph for
    a real speed of 35 mph.
    See above.
     
    Pip, May 23, 2005
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  15. steve robinson

    Pip Guest

    That isn't an actual road speed of 30mph though, man.
    Indeed.
     
    Pip, May 23, 2005
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    Ace Guest

    But it's very entertaining. Please continue.

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    Ace, May 23, 2005
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  17. steve robinson

    tallbloke Guest

    Ah no, my laziness in not reading more of the thread brfore shooting my
    mouth off :)
     
    tallbloke, May 23, 2005
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  18. Beav wrote
    At last the accurate reply.

    My local camera (one of the few genuine roadside safety accessories)
    was set to 10%+3 in the early days and is now, according to local
    legend, over 50 somewhere now.
     
    steve auvache, May 23, 2005
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  19. steve robinson

    Frooty Guest

    Checked two cars recently with my GPS -

    1997 Vauxhall Omega was exactly 5% out (up the way, obviously) but this
    figure stayed the same over a range of speeds (but nothing excessive).

    1987 Toyota MR2 was at 64MPH actual when speedo read 70, so out by 8.5%
    (didn't get much chance to check over a range of speeds).

    My point being don't take the 10% figure as a guide to what every car or
    bike will be out by, or you could be in bother!
     
    Frooty, May 23, 2005
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    AndrewR Guest

    Um, isn't that out by ~9.4% ?
    Very true. I got nicked years ago in my company Rover 214. I was holding
    the speedo dead on 99 (the copper praised me for my throttle control), but I
    was timed at 96.5mph

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    AndrewR, May 23, 2005
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