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Paul Carmichael ha escrito:

I am more concerned about both Catalan and Spanish (and French, and...)
sprogs being hardly able to say a word in English.

For the rest, your distorted point of view is your problem, not mine.

 

Paul Carmichael ha escrito:

I am more concerned about both Catalan and Spanish (and French, and...)
sprogs being hardly able to say a word in English.

For the rest, your distorted point of view is your problem, not mine.

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I'd hardly call ten million Catalan speakers inconsequential, either.

Ali

 

Alison Hopkins ha escrito:

For those interested in language demographics...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/european_languages

(nice review from the Beeb, BTW)

 

There's quite a few folk here that can read and write a bit of english,
but can't speak it or understand the spoken word. Wasn't it one of
Zapatero's election promises that every kid in Spain would learn English?

All my distorted points of view are mine, not yours.

Put that handbag down.

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Numbers, numbers. I hear more catalán in my village than is spoken in
everyday life in Cataluña. This is because a local woman originally from
Barcelona insists that her kids only speak catalán at home (which
happens to be a bar I frequent). Lets see if Domènec bites on that beauty...

The real joke though is in Euskadi (The Basque Country). They have their
own language (not a mixture of spanish and french like catalán), they
are a supposedly proud "race" and keep blowing people up to get Zapatero
to "pull out the occupying spanish authorities", and yet they speak
lovely castellano (spanish) up there. The only other language I've heard
spoken there is portuguese.

By the way, I have almost **** all knowledge of the politics, so feel
free to completely ignore all the above. I suspect that Alison already
has me down as a racist.

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Now, see, I know you're winding him up, but I hear Catalan predominantly in
Sitges amongst the locals.

<blink> Why? I'd call you an....erm.... anti separationist, if anything.

Ali

 

Paul Carmichael ha escrit:

To be honest your points of view seem to be those of the Spanish
conservative/nationalist media and some think-alike folks at
soc.culture.spain. No surprises nor original thinking in what you say.

 

If I see anything in soc.culture.spain it's by accident (I think you
know what I mean - and I don't take any notice generally). The newspaper
I read is El País, which I'd call left of centre. My other sources are
television and conversations in the pub. As you no doubt know, Andalucía
is predominantly socialist, so you'd think I'd be sucked in by that.
Unfortunately, I don't understand most of my vecinos (if you stand in a
bar here, you could easily believe you were in a mezquita). The only
ones educated enough to a) string a sentence together that isn't about
football and b) not be totally taken in by the incumbent mayor when he
buys them the odd drink (with their own money) - "He's a lovely man. He
gives us grapes on New Year's Eve." - tend to be a little more to the Right.

But when I talk about these subjects (here) I generally spout off a load
of old un-thought out bollocks. As is the tradition in a british bar.

Talking of which - the local catalán bar has turned British. They've
"acogido" (can't think of the english word) the entire British
"Community". Thursday night is now Karoake night. Full of scousers,
brummies and laaandunners who all suffer from that spanish condition
that everyone thinks that they can sing.

Perhaps I'll learn catalán and move to Cataluña...

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Portuguese? Eh?

 

Everyone knows that Catalan is very bastardised French anyway! ;-)

 

You're Canadian?

Ali

 

Eh?

I'm just wondering how Paul could have heard Portuguese in the Basque
country, unless it was a tourist passing through.

 

Cab ha escrit:

There is the possibility of inmigrants. Andorra for instance is full of
them.

 

Cab ha escrit:

No, French is bastardised Occitan which in turn is bastardised Catalan
;-)

Even Jesuschrist himself spoke Catalan, but he was so humble that
decided to be born in Bethlehem rather than Barcino [1] )

[1] Barcelona at the time being .

 

Paul Carmichael ha escrit:

You know, we received plenty of Andalucian inmigration one generation
ago, so perhaps you wouldn't notice the change. Even the 128th of our
government as of today was born in Andalucia.

And despite Ali's enthusiasm we are not that brilliant (self criticism
could go here for many reasons).

 

See? That's one of the reasons for my enthusiasm. <grin>

Ali

 

That I can understand, but it's not an area that I'd associate
Portuguese immigrants with. I may be wrong in my understanding, mind.

 

Cab ha escrito:

Mind that when the Apollo landed on the moon the first thing the
Merkins could see was some guys dressed in black eating haddock and
singing fado. That was removed from the mission footage, but I have
evidences.

 

So why is just about every big business on the peninsular catalán?
That's what pisses most spaniards off about los catalanes. It's a bit
like the jews in the rest of the world. They'll take over you know, they
will, they will...

<insert world war here>

La catalana en mi pueblo sigue siendo una de mis personas favoritas de
todas. La más simpática sin duda. Qué lástima que insiste en torturar a
sus niños así con hacerlos hablar un idioma tan poco usado en el resto
del mundo.

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<G> You daft sod.