Spyball alarm question

I'm having a problem with a bike that is fitted with a Spyball alarm.
I'm not even sure what model it is, but let's assume that it is the
Patriot. The alarm appears to be working, at least the bloody
immobiliser side is - but it also appears to be erratic in operation:
going off when it shouldn't, not going off when it should, that sort
of thing. The LED indicating status isn't working either and hasn't
for some time, apparently - this makes it difficult to tell whether
the alarm is armed or not.

The obvious course of action is to rip it out, but as it has been
installed properly, all the black wires disappear into the original
loom so removal would be time consuming, to say the least.

What I'd like to do is to perform a hard reset. I'm thinking about
disconnecting the bike battery, then pulling out the alarm's internal
battery and leaving it to think about its behaviour for a while before
reconnecting the batteries.

The problem is that I have no information on the alarm, and neither
does the owner of the bike. Spyball seem to have disappeared off the
planet and all I can find through googling is complaints about alarm
failures with no solutions.

Does anybody have any info or instructions relevant to a Spyball?

 

Given the fact that everyone else thinks it's crap, and that the firm
doesn't seem to exist, I still think this is the wiser option. If it's
gone wrong once, it'll go wrong again, and Sod's Law says that the next
time will be at the most bloody inconvenient moment.

Btw, the bike concerned isn't the Throttle Cable Harley, is it?

 

Given the fact that everyone else thinks it's crap, and that the firm
doesn't seem to exist, I still think this is the wiser option. If it's
gone wrong once, it'll go wrong again, and Sod's Law says that the next
time will be at the most bloody inconvenient moment.[/QUOTE]

I know you're right, but I don't want to commit to this course of
action precipitately. If someone can come up with some means of
diagnosis I'd like to try resetting it first.

Another awkwardness is that there's no documentation with the alarm,
nor is there a manual or wiring diagram for the bike.

<whistles, innocently>

 

Mate is having same probs on his NightTrain, had to have a new unit
shipped over from the states, funny enough that doesn't work either.
Once I'm over this shitty flu/man death virus I'll pop down the shop
that re fitted it and ask them for the wiring diagram. It must have
come with one.
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Pip pretended :

The logical way to tackle its removal lacking a circuit diagram - would
be to simply cut it out at every point it connects into the loom, then
rejoin all parts of the loom where the wire colours match [1], but
which would otherwise leave a loose end of wire in the loom.

All of these alarm/immobiliser circuits are either series circuits
where the loom has been cut or broken [1], or parallel circuits which
can simply be cut out and the loom tapping points insulated.

All joints should of course be soldered, well insulated, then finally a
layer of tape over the top of the entire loom.

 

<Settles down comfortably>

This is going to be *fun*.

 

Off you go then, if it's not done in 1/2 hour you owe us all a pint
each
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[Rot 13 it]

Some people are like slinkys....
no real use but it makes you smile when they fall down stairs!

 

BORG wrote :

Well an hour at the most. Your method of tackling the problem would
be...?

 

I know they're in Italy and their website states contact them on

but I don't know if they are able to provide a wiring diagram

 

Throw it at someone who understands the fucking things. I've heard of
people trying to dismantle/remove alarms and immobilisers themselves,
and accidentally fritzing the bike's black boxes.

 

Even if they do, it'll be Italian.

 

Even if they do, it'll be Italian.[/QUOTE]

<sob>

That explains it all, dunnit?

 

<sob>

That explains it all, dunnit?[/QUOTE]

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The Older Gentleman expressed precisely :

Circuit diagrams are international.

 

Nothing to do with me, guv.

Of course it helps if you diconnect the effing battery first; removing
the thing *if* you've got wiring diagram and are moderately handy with
a soldering iron shouldn't be that big a deal if it's installed
properly.

Of course that is a *big* if.

 

Do they do sense of humour transplants these days?

 

It happens that Timo Geusch formulated :

Usually they do it the easiest way, which to simply tap into the supply
points needed and snip a wire at a point where the alarm needs to be in
series with a circuit. Worst case is the need to rejoin two sometimes
three wires and cut the rest off, how difficult can that be - even
without a diagram?

 

Not necessarily, and especially so where the Italians are concerned.

 

<Holds head in hands>

Bugger off back to your soldering iron, there's a good chap.

 

"For Sale: Nighttrain, slightly dead, not my bike"