Anyone know OTTOTH what a 36k service on an ST 1050 is? ISTR it's a biggy. Yes I know I could call someone, but I'm a tad busy ATM. TIA -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
I know what it was on the old model Sprint because I (briefly) had one and it was coming up to the 36k service. I can't see it'll be too far removed from the current ST. Yes, a biggie. Budget well over £800.
I shall put it away for another pay day Ta -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
Jeebus. I'm with Champ. What on earth is on the schedule, new main bearings or summat? Or does it take (counts on fingers and toes) about 24 hours to do the valve clearances?
I think the most I ever paid for a service was the 'blade's 12K service, when they also had to replace the EXUP cables and I also got them to remove the stupid homdicator circuitry and fit the proper rear indicators that I'd sourced from eBay. That was something like £300 all in, including fully synth oil. I can only imaging a lot of that cost is labour, and that something stupid in the design requires the bike 1/2 taken to pieces and reassembled at the end as part of the service. As a comparison, the service that's being done on "my" ZX12R next week by Lloyd Coopers has been quoted at £148.
It stunned me, too, when I was told, to the extent that I called Carl Rosner to check, and yes, 'tis true. £800+. Shim job (apparently quite tricky on the triples), complete regulation of the FI system, I think routine replacement of fuel hoses, BICBW, all fluids including brake, all filters including fuel, etc etc. If you need tyres, brake pads, chain and sprox as well, then you're well over a grand A friend and ex-colleague, Rob, who's coming to Chimay, was tempted by one, and it was due its big service, so I told him to ask the seller if it had been done, and of course it hadn't been, and he was equally incredulous at the cost. I told him to get CR to quote just for the shims and the FI and we could do the rest, and that was still over £500, IIRC. This is why a lot of Sprints get sold when they get to around 35k miles.
Hmm, tyres, chain, sprox, brake fluid etc have been done over the last few, so it may not be quite so grim. But it's still gonna hurt. fx: fires up biketrader.... -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
Anyone got a service manual for it in .pdf? There appears to be a torrent of it, but I can't try from here.
How the ****, a couple of decades into virtually maintenance-free injection on cars, do they manage to come up with something that needs so much work at such a low mileage? And... shims? FFS. What IS it with bike engine designers? What's wrong with hydraulic tappets or - if they insist on being lowtech - screw-and-locknut?
£760.51 for a 2 year service on my Ducati ST4s. http://www.ducatisti.co.uk/forum/du...ajor-service-cost-belt-change.html#post366281 http://tinyurl.com/nphh4o £460 for the 16K service on my CBR600RR. All main dealers.
Oh *yes*. Will you collect, again? -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
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Somebody appears to have stolen 95 cm3 of your engine Still up for coffee? -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
My gixxer has screw/locknut tappets. Works fine up to 10krpm. I guess that modern high-revving engines need to reduce the mass of the valve train though why they put the shim under the bucket is a mystery. Perhaps easily removed shims tend to remove themselves.
Yup, reciprocating weight. Shims on top of the buckets, being bigger, add to the weight of the individual valve assembly which creates more inertia which ultimately limits the revs. Blimey, there's odd. I never knew that. I don't know of any bikes that have that system.
Insanity permitting, why not? -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
Screw-n-locknut systems usually need more frequent adjustment and are heavier, so the engine can't make as much power. The time saved wouldn't be as great as you'd think because you still have to get at the valves - this means bodywork removal, usually seat removal, sometimes fuel tank removal (or at least hinging & propping it up), moving or even totally removing radiators, and finally removal of other stuff that can block access to the valves, such as coils, air boxes, any heat shields or air dams, the camcover itself, etc. For a non-self-adjusting valve train, shim & bucket is actually a very low-maintenance and light system. It's a just a PITA when it does have to be done because if a shim needs changing then, in the case of shim-under-bucket systems, which most are these days, the camshaft has to come out. My R1 is pretty much at 24K miles, which is its first valve clearance check. Twenty valves. I'm really not looking forward to it.
