Steering head question.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Salad Dodger, Apr 19, 2010.

  1. Salad Dodger

    Salad Dodger Guest

    If two bikes share the same external diameter for their head bearings,
    would this suggest that the two front ends are interchangeable?

    Just thinking out loud about a solution to the CBX front end's
    shortcomings.
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    Salad Dodger, Apr 19, 2010
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  2. Salad Dodger

    Lozzo Guest

    You'd need to look at the length of the steering stem tube and depth of
    the bearing races to get a better idea, but if they are identical then
    there shouldn't be a problem. Internal diameter isn't an issue if the
    same bike's stem and yokes are used together.
     
    Lozzo, Apr 19, 2010
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  3. Salad Dodger

    Salad Dodger Guest

    One suggestion from elsewhere is to press out the stem from the lower
    yoke, and press it into the new one.

    Those 35mm forks are simply not up to the job. The CBX is around the
    same size as the CB13, and that has 43mm items.

    Allegedly, a pre-2000 B12 front end might do the business.

    Of course, if that works, then the tail-end will become the weak
    point.
     
    Salad Dodger, Apr 20, 2010
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  4. Salad Dodger

    Lozzo Guest

    I've seen this done quite a bit on RDs and LCs, and also some of the SV
    boys fit USD front ends from all manner of bikes because the stock
    forks are shite. Its not a difficult job and doesn't need a genius to
    complete the work, but they have to make sure it's all lined up
    correctly
     
    Lozzo, Apr 20, 2010
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  5. Not necessarily. The steering stems themselves might be different
    lengths.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 20, 2010
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  6. Salad Dodger

    darsy Guest

    On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:37:34 +0100, Salad Dodger
    your sig is getting more like geekcode every month.
     
    darsy, Apr 20, 2010
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  7. Salad Dodger

    Mike Buckley Guest

    I've seen this done quite a bit on RDs and LCs, and also some of the SV
    boys fit USD front ends from all manner of bikes because the stock
    forks are shite. Its not a difficult job and doesn't need a genius to
    complete the work, but they have to make sure it's all lined up
    correctly
    [/QUOTE]

    Aye, I fitted RGV front suspension to RD without any problems, apart
    from a spacer which is readily available from the RD forum it went
    straight on. Harder work getting clocks etc to fit/work.
     
    Mike Buckley, Apr 20, 2010
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  8. Salad Dodger

    Salad Dodger Guest

    It just growed like Topsy ...
     
    Salad Dodger, Apr 20, 2010
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  9. Salad Dodger

    darsy Guest

    to paraphrase ukrm circa 1997: The cheapest way to make your bike
    better/faster is to sell it and buy a better/faster bike.
     
    darsy, Apr 20, 2010
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  10. Salad Dodger

    Tim Guest

    Perhaps a METAR or a TAF?
     
    Tim, Apr 20, 2010
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  11. Salad Dodger

    Pip Guest

    *ding*

    "If you want a faster bike, go and buy a faster bike". Right?
     
    Pip, Apr 20, 2010
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  12. Salad Dodger

    Pip Guest

    Five to one the problem can be traced to the 'outrigger' castors which
    are screwed into the lower extremities of that unfeasibly wide engine.
    When they touch down, obviously the bike wobbles a bit and tries to sit
    up.

    Can be alleviated by removing the castors and fitting sparky slidery
    bits instead. Or refitting the engine in line, of course, pivoting
    around the central bolt and spinning the output sprocket to suit. This
    then feeds the existing drive chain thriough a primary chain via a
    thrunging sprocket, thus converting it to a proper gentleman's
    motorcycle.
     
    Pip, Apr 20, 2010
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  13. Salad Dodger

    Pip Guest

    Arse. Outpaced by 90 seconds.

    I need a faster newsreader.
     
    Pip, Apr 20, 2010
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  14. Salad Dodger

    darsy Guest

    "the cheapest way to make your newsreader faster..." etc.
     
    darsy, Apr 20, 2010
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  15. Salad Dodger

    Pip Guest

    Yeah. Thank you, Mister O'Murray.
     
    Pip, Apr 20, 2010
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  16. Salad Dodger

    SaladDodger Guest

    One with brakes would be a bonus.
    Oh, but I do, but I could enjoy it *more* if it stopped quicker than
    an oil tanker.
    This idea was to enable a switch back to stock to be as simple as
    possible.
    Ah.
     
    SaladDodger, Apr 20, 2010
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    Hog Guest

    Adaptors with some modern calipers (and possibly disks) would be the easy
    option, look fairly kosher and easy to put back. And a decent master
    cylinder perhaps. Comstar wheels IIRC and anything else would look odd.

    Have thought a bit of attention to springs and oil would make the suspension
    at least tolerable.

    The OE Bandit front end doesn't exactly have wonderful brakes.

    Are the tubes 35mm? nothing much better came in that diameter. GS and CB
    750's were about the same. An early FZ-600 would be about 36mm however and
    I've fitted 1mm over forks into yokes.
     
    Hog, Apr 20, 2010
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  18. Salad Dodger

    Lozzo Guest

    You talk out of your arse.

    They are good enough to hoist stoppies from 100mph, how much better do
    you need for the road?
     
    Lozzo, Apr 20, 2010
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  19. Salad Dodger

    Hog Guest

    Do you think SD was talking about a new 1250 front end? or maybe a 1996
    1200 system.
     
    Hog, Apr 20, 2010
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  20. Salad Dodger

    Pip Guest

    See Loz's response.

    Whilst the brakes on my Bandit won't squeeze your eyeballs against your
    visor, one finger at 120 is enough to make the tyre whimper. The
    grudging, grumpy MoT tester last month said they were impressive and
    the guy before that noted that they registered the highest readings
    he'd yet seen on his rollers. More than adequate and I daresay a sight
    better than the OEM CBX brakes, from my experiences with Hondas of that
    generation.
     
    Pip, Apr 21, 2010
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