still coolent in exh after replacing head gaskets

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Technical Discussion' started by jbk42, Dec 1, 2003.

  1. jbk42

    jbk42 Guest

    I have a feeling I'm not going to like the answers I get but here's my
    problem. My 1984 Honda GL1200 started blowing white smoke out of the
    exhaust and overheating during some city riding. I shut it down and had
    someone come and pick me up so I wouldn't warp the heads. Well I just
    finished replacing the head gaskets and the problem is still here. The
    bad feeling started after pulling the heads and not seeing any damage to
    the existing gaskets. This bike sat for 2 1/2 years before I got it but
    it ran fine for 3 months. I did not at any time beat the bike or ride it
    hard. Anyone have any suggestions on what may have happened. Thank You
     
    jbk42, Dec 1, 2003
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  2. jbk42

    Page Guest

    First thing I would try is a Vacuum test. This would eliminate a leak
    of any kind from the top end if it passes. I assume you checked the
    cylinder wall for taper or barreling, and checked the clearance between
    the piston and the cylinder wall. Just replacing a gasket would not
    help if oil were getting past your rings. You may need to replace the
    piston rings.

    Also check to see if there is oil in your air filter. You could be
    sucking oil into your cylinders from the top as it draws in air through
    the air filter. I suspect you have blow piston rings. Without any more
    details its hard to tell. I assume you have also checked your oil
    pressure to make sure the lamp is not burnt out and that you are getting
    enough oil through your engine.

    If you have done all that then you need to do a pressure test to see if
    there is a crack somewhere in the case between the cylinder and the
    crakecase.

    Good luck, hope this helps get you started. Pardon the pun.
     
    Page, Dec 1, 2003
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    Battleax Guest

    The guy is refering to coolant, not oil.
    Sounds like a cracked head.
    B
     
    Battleax, Dec 1, 2003
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  4. jbk42

    Charlie Gary Guest

    Does the cloud of white "smoke" dissapear into the air quickly, or does it
    linger?


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    Later,

    Charlie

    fix the e-mail address and it will get to me
     
    Charlie Gary, Dec 2, 2003
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  5. jbk42

    jbk42 Guest

    It is a correct assumption, and the nose knows, You can't mistake the
    sickening sweet smell of coolant. Not to mention the rad emptying out
    very quickly.
     
    jbk42, Dec 2, 2003
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    Page Guest

    Still, a pressure test should confirm a crack in the cylinder regardless
    if it is oil or coolant.
     
    Page, Dec 2, 2003
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    Battleax Guest


    Completly useless, keep up the good work, lol.
     
    Battleax, Dec 2, 2003
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  8. jbk42

    jbk42 Guest

    problem. My 1984 Honda GL1200 started blowing white smoke out of the
    exhaust and overheating during some city riding. I shut it down and had
    someone come and pick me up so I wouldn't warp the heads. Well I just
    finished replacing the head gaskets and the problem is still here. The
    bad feeling started after pulling the heads and not seeing any damage to
    the existing gaskets. This bike sat for 2 1/2 years before I got it but
    it ran fine for 3 months. I did not at any time beat the bike or ride it
    hard. Anyone have any suggestions on what may have happened. Thank You

    Good question ........

    Well ??????

    It does not linger long but it is very moist
     
    jbk42, Dec 4, 2003
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    Charlie Gary Guest

    That, combined with the really obvious one of coolant level going down
    every day you told us about after I posted, says it's going somewhere. I
    had a problem with my V45 where some of the head bolts had been heli-coiled
    during a previous teardown. The threads cut into the block for the
    heli-coils were stripping out, but I didn't know at the time that's why I
    was loosing coolant. I was also thinking head gasket, and I didn't realize
    until I was re-assembling it after burning a valve that the heli-coil was
    coming apart in one hole. The screws all torqued 1/3 and 2/3's, but the one
    wouldn't hold full torque. It was fun taking it all apart again to fix that
    one.
    Try re-torquing your heads. Here's an obvious one, unless you miss it.
    Did you lay a straight edge across the heads at various angles and check for
    any gap between the straight edge and head with feeler gages? If it ain't
    flat, it's tough to seal. You can check the deck on the block the same way.
    If the heads torque properly, and the surface is flat, you should probably
    have the heads pressure checked.


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    Later,

    Charlie

    fix the e-mail address and it will get to me
     
    Charlie Gary, Dec 5, 2003
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