strawberries in a top box

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by mr p, Jul 16, 2007.

  1. mr p

    CT Guest

    I only really read a newspaper at weekends and still usually get the
    Indy on a Saturday.

    I've now boycotted the Sunday one because since the revamp, they have
    committed the heinous crime of replacing the back page sports headlines
    with a full-page advert.
     
    CT, Jul 18, 2007
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    Hog Guest

    You have it in a nutshell.
    Yes the world is warming *in places*. Is this in general a bad thing? I
    very much doubt it. Some deserts will get bigger and sandier, other
    areas will get wetter, warmer and much greener, the global crop yield
    will improve.

    I am greatly amused at the recent announcement that our Sun is not an
    important variable in the system. One can assume if enough of us come to
    believe it so the Earth will spin off out into deep space AND continue
    to get warmer.

    I have temporarily modified my sig to stress my own CO2 contribution ;o)
     
    Hog, Jul 18, 2007
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  3. mr p

    Hog Guest

    Oh I like this new development. Do they have any conception of the
    amount of commercial radio and television generated radiation around
    them? not to mention radar near airports.
     
    Hog, Jul 18, 2007
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    We're quite careful about buying local produce where we can, for a
    number of reasons, not least to save air miles and road/train miles.
    I'd be sad to be labelled eco-hysteric because of it.
     
    Colin Irvine, Jul 18, 2007
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    Ace Guest

    I think this whole 'buy-local' bandwagon is itself a sign that
    eco-hysteria has now reached all levels of society. I'll continue to
    base my fod shopping on flavour and price above all else - if the
    local produce is cheaper by virtue of lower transport costs then it'll
    all work itself out, but if not then tough.

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    Ace, Jul 18, 2007
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    Des Guest

    Well since you're in France now, getting chicory shouldn't be a problem...

    D.
     
    Des, Jul 18, 2007
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  7. mr p

    Des Guest

    I recall one study (the exact details of which I don't recall) which
    pointed out that one person's transatlantic flight produced as much
    greenhouse gas as produced by an African during five years of life or
    something like that.

    The 'iconoclasts' who want to continue to live their lifestyle that is
    harmful to the planet, are only lying to themselves.
    AFAIK, none of the previous changes was due to human activity. Was there a
    ****-off hole in the ozone layer before? Were the changes ever as fast or
    as damaging to the various species living on the planet?

    D.
     
    Des, Jul 18, 2007
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    Fair point. My belief, however, and it is only that, is that the
    direction of natural climate change will be to the detriment of human
    existance and so should not be exacerbated.

    I really do not envy my daughter the world in which she may be living
    in 50 years time. I'm happy to risk her remembering me as an old
    eccentric with an unnecessary preoccupation with the environment if it
    means she'll never curse me for not even trying to help slow down its
    deterioration.
     
    Colin Irvine, Jul 18, 2007
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  9. mr p

    Colin Irvine Guest

    As is your right. Taking the opposite view, however, is not
    necessarily a symptom of eco-hysteria.

    Anyway, I'm a man so I can't be hysterical!
     
    Colin Irvine, Jul 18, 2007
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    dog Guest

    presumably because the changes we cause are toxic to our own species,
    rather than to others.
     
    dog, Jul 18, 2007
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    Des Guest

    If only ..

    'Human beings are currently causing the greatest mass extinction of
    species since the extinction of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. If
    present trends continue one half of all species of life on earth will
    be extinct in less than 100 years, as a result of habitat destruction,
    pollution, invasive species, and climate change'
    (http://www.well.com/~davidu/extinction.html)

    D.
     
    Des, Jul 18, 2007
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  12. mr p

    Des Guest

    Oh, well _done_ !! What a _wonderful_ _non_sequitur_ !!

    D.
     
    Des, Jul 18, 2007
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    Ace Guest

    Are you suer you're not trying to tell us something?

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    Ace, Jul 18, 2007
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    CT Guest

    You Googled all of that, didn't you?
    Quite.
     
    CT, Jul 18, 2007
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  15. No - but it's a good start..

    Why fly fruit halfway round the world when you don't need to? It grows
    here perfectly adequately so why import it?
    Rubbish. Out of season srawbs maybe but stuff grown in season won't
    have been.

    Phil.
     
    Phil Launchbury, Jul 18, 2007
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  16. *Ding*

    Phil.
     
    Phil Launchbury, Jul 18, 2007
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  17. Well yes. But then the media have never been famed for producing an
    in-depth, impartial and cogent view of anything other than the bottom
    of a whisky bottle. Or a claret jug.
    I was ranting about this the other day - the planets will survive
    global warming just fine. The ecosystem on the other hand will be
    dramatically changed..

    Just like it was with snowball earth, the Jurassic period etc etc.

    As you say - the only constant it change. Species rise, species die.

    As some specialised niches become available species will specialise in
    order to fill them.

    Phil.
     
    Phil Launchbury, Jul 18, 2007
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    Des Guest

    Er ... and ?
    *shrug*

    D.
     
    Des, Jul 18, 2007
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    Des Guest

    Iconoclast alert!!

    D.
     
    Des, Jul 18, 2007
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  20. So which factories make Hondas/Suzukis/Kawasakis here then?

    Hint - you are not comparing like with like.

    We *grow* strawberries naturally at this time of year. So why fly them
    in from the US and incur a large energy-debt?

    Phil.
     
    Phil Launchbury, Jul 18, 2007
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