strawberries in a top box

As are our local organic ones - even if we do have to go and pick them
ourselves :-(

*Ding*

Phil

 

It's an exemplar of an attitude.

Which is the nub of the matter..

Phil.

 

You have 3?

And you're wrong - it's the cost (in total energy terms - not just 'fuel
for the plane') for a product.

And it covers all phases - costs to manufacture/grow, cost to deliver
to market and cost to deliver.

Phil

 

You have a touching faith in human nature.. People buy what is
available even if it's crap. Look at Windows 3.1. It was utterly dire
in comparison to OS/2 but people bought it in droves.

It's been fairly well proven that supermarkets don't select based on
flavour - they select on appearance and uniformity. So the strawberries
you buy are bought on the basis that they are:

a) Cheap to the supermarket
b) Available in sufficient bulk
c) Consistent in size and appearance

Most people buy the supermarket-available ones because there is very
little competition - most of the high-street fruit and veg shops have
disappeared now. Yes - there are farmers markets but they are always
during the day so families where the adults work can't get to them.

And if supermarkets *do* stock 'organic' produce (which isn't
guarenteed to be any better then the mass market stuff anyway) it's
usually at a considerable premium. Which means in the price-driven
supermarket sector they don't sell well which means they don't get
stocked very often..

There are box-delivery schemes where local growers will deliver fruit
and veg to your house on a weekly basis but they lack the 'I fancy a
bowl of rasberries tonight' effect.

Phil.

 

One would hope so. Champ may have an excuse in his lack of taste buds
but I though Ace had a functioning sensory system..

Phil

 

Then transported to the central distribution centre, refrigerated, then
sent back out to the local stores..

Crap growers produce crap produce - no matter how it reaches you.

Phil

 

As I pointed out in another post, there's absolutely no reason to
assume that 'local' produce is any fresher than that from further
away, even imported from another continent.

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So? In what way does this justofy your spurious claim that 'local'
stuff wouldn't also be chemically-assisted?


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And where precisely did I claim that?

Yes - I'm aware I said 'chemical-ridden stuff picked by peasants' in
regard to the foreign ones but I think you'll struggle to find anywhere
where I said the English ones would not be..

Unless of course you buy organic ones certified to the appropriate
standard.

Phil.

 

So you agree that there's no reason to suppose that English ones would
be any less 'chemical-ridden'? Kinda makes your statement a bit
redundant, dunnit?

From whatever source.

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I know you sometimes have comprehension issues but this is taking it to
the extreme.. I'd lay off the morphine for a while if I was you.

It's called 'a rant'. There is also a serious point - a lot of the
low-cost fruit production countries are a hell of a lot less stringent
about applying the rules on pesticide & fungicide monitoring than we
are.

Some of the certifications include time and distance to market.

Phil.

 

Never bungy a carrier bag with a bottle of wine in it to the back of
your seat, its bound to come loose and swing around smashing into the
wheel.makes a horrible mess especially if it's red wine

 

What the **** are you talking about? Does pointing out logical
inconsistencies in your posts only come with morphine use in your
world then?

As it happens, I've not used the stuff for 9 or 10 months.

So completely pointless, then.

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Don't they still come by sea? I don't know of transport ships that can
cross the Atlantic in forty-eight hours..

D.

 

'p-r-o-t-e-c-t-i-o-n-i-s-m'.

D.

 

They do use some poly tunnels in Essex but only to extend what is
otherwise a very short season and to ensure a good crop ready for the 5
squids a bite shite they sell at Wimbledon. The maincrop in these parts
is as natural as it gets, for modern farming values of natural.

 

Ocean container ship, Eastern Seaboard US to Western Seaboard UK is 4
weeks transit. I suspect 4 weeks is way too long for strawberries, not
to mention they'd be battered to **** by the water motion.

Especially as the best[1] US strawberries are grown in the west.


[1] apparently from Oxnard, 10 minutes from here, the things are *huge*,
but, IMHO, are pretty nasty compared to a good old, regular size
English/Dutch organic strawberry.

 

You're all correct, but completely missing my point, which is that
it's a question of time, not distance, that can affect the freshness.
If something's airfreighted from the US to my plate in 48 hours,
that's quite likely to be every bit as fresh as, or even fresher than,
something that's on the stall of a once-weekly farmer's market.[/QUOTE]

Yes, this is quite true. Except that, even with air freight, the
field-to-plate time is likely to be nearer four or five days than 48
hours.

 

Cos I'm bored.

HTH.

D.

 

He craves the attention.

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