Stupid Mistake with a Motorcycle

http://earlyyearsofmx.com/BSA441victor.html

Sean_Q_

 

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~tdealmeida/03_lineage.html

SQ

 

Yes indeed. Lovely, lovely looking bike. If ever I have a
ShiteOldBritSingle, it'll be one of these.

But it was not "designed for track racing". Which was my point.

The MX version was as close as you'll get - stripped down, intended for
off-road use only - but it was really just a Victor with the bits taken
off. And for the USA, it was sold as a Triumph anyway.

Now what *was* designed for dirt racing was the titanium-framed Beeza...

 

So, what is it to you, fuckwit?

 

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Wotcha.

Which cost an absolute fortune in development, but never really did any
good.

 

Oh, quite.

 

So much so it almost made my eyes misty.

Whatever else it was used for such as hill climbing, trials,
enduro etc, the Victor's pedigree was MX dirt track racing:

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[BSA Victor] HISTORY

1964 C15T TRIALS CAT
Jeff Smith's overbore C15 takes the 500cc World Moto-Cross Championship
and holds the title for two years. His lightweight machine with a large
engine rivals the worlds best 500's and Small Heath is under pressure to
deliver a production version of his machine. From his "works" machine,
the 441 cc Victor Scrambler is produced.

1965 B44 GP GRAND PRIX
With 441 cc displacement and a hard-chrome plated alloy barrel, this
90 mm stroke machine establishes the Victor line.

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~tdealmeida/03_lineage.html
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Here's BSA's own ad defining the Victor, somewhat retroactively:
http://www.acay.com.au/~shanep/jpegs/brochures/1966/66-8.jpg

http://www.fezone.com/pages/bsa.htm says:
The Victor "Special" was built as an American version of England's
Victor "Grand Prix" which was a full fledged racer whose only
purpose in life was to go full throttle in motocross.

Of course, riders were pleasantly surprised to find that
it could do other things as well:
http://www.acay.com.au/~shanep/catalogs/1967/67r-11.jpg

To me, the street version was a Victor with bits added on
to make it road legal -- for instance you could ride it to
events and compete.

Sean_Q_

 

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OK, point conceded

 

Ah yes, the snappy-framed one, iirc.
--
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
river cleaned out in a day.

 

Buying a Triumph with the gear change on the 'wrong' side.

Buying a Ducati thinking they had a strong gearbox.

Buying a Moto-Guzzi thinking it would have a stronger gearbox than the
Ducati.

Not wearing a condom.

Wearing a condom.