Stupid Motorcycle Chain Lube Question

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Morgan Vening, Mar 16, 2010.

  1. OKay, I'm fairly certain I've been lubing my chain incorrectly. I've
    watched quite a few YouTube Clips, and I know most of what I need to
    know. Like not spraying it on the outside of the chain.

    The one question I have, is when spraying on the lube, where should I
    be aiming to make contact. None of the clips I've seen go into that,
    and the advice I've gotten from those that I know that ride has been
    contradictory.

    I was initially aiming vertically between the roller plates and pin
    plates. Some have said you work on the rollers, and let the sprockets
    move it aside. Others have said you aim for the inside of the opposite
    roller plates where the rollers join the plate.

    Can anyone advise, or point to a good guide to doing this?

    Morgan Vening
     
    Morgan Vening, Mar 16, 2010
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  2. Morgan Vening

    Marty H Guest

    don't... chains come lubed out of the packet.. you are wasting money
    on chain lube

    clean it, a little WD40 and keep it tensioned

    mh
     
    Marty H, Mar 16, 2010
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  3. Morgan Vening

    atec 77 Guest

    lift onto the centre stand and the inside of the chain whilst spinning
    the rear wheel >job done
     
    atec 77, Mar 16, 2010
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  4. Morgan Vening

    Andrew Guest

    The online site Motocyclistonline says, in an interview with a guy named
    PJ Harvey (yes, really!) who makes chain lube:

    " MC: If an O-ring chain lube doesn't need to get lubricant past the O-
    rings and inside the chain, what does it do for the chain then?
    PJH: It keeps the chain from rusting, it lubricates the O-ring itself and
    it does provide some cushion effect between the chain roller and the
    sprocket, which reduces wear on the sprockets and increases the chain's
    life. "

    He didn't mention the quantum mechanical effect of the chain lube, which,
    if applied strictly in accordance with the manufacturer's directions,
    will extend the life of a single bike chain to millennia. [1]

    --
    Regards

    Andrew

    [1] The directions usually say to spray it on the rollers.
     
    Andrew, Mar 16, 2010
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  5. Morgan Vening

    Andrew Guest

    spinning the rear wheel >job done

    Useful word added.
     
    Andrew, Mar 16, 2010
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  6. It would be easier to tip it over onto its handlebars and seat, just like a
    pushie.
    Then you can oil the chain to your hearts content
     
    George W Frost, Mar 16, 2010
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  7. Morgan Vening

    G-S Guest

    O-ring/X-ring chains already have internal lube there... that's why I
    point the chain lube at the inside of the chain where the chain rubs
    against the sprockets.


    G-S
     
    G-S, Mar 16, 2010
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  8. Morgan Vening

    atec 77 Guest

    Ok I made a misstake :p
     
    atec 77, Mar 16, 2010
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  9. You only have to give ther back sprocket a squirt and the lubricant will do
    the whole chain after a few revolutions
     
    George W Frost, Mar 16, 2010
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  10. Morgan Vening

    atec 77 Guest

    May I make a suggestion where your DUckhams might be stored ?
     
    atec 77, Mar 16, 2010
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  11. Morgan Vening

    Andrew Guest

    I think you'll find Nev.. is being provocative, G.S. Just a feeling I
    have. [1]

    --
    Regards

    Andrew

    [1] I find it easier to aim at the gap between the chain and the *front*
    sprocket. Some disassembly required, but.
     
    Andrew, Mar 17, 2010
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  12. Morgan Vening

    Dyna Soar Guest

    Life's a full-on mistake for you, Bazza.
     
    Dyna Soar, Mar 17, 2010
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  13. Morgan Vening

    atec 77 Guest

    You really are a little ray of sunshine Raymond
     
    atec 77, Mar 17, 2010
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  14. Morgan Vening

    Dyna Soar Guest

    Yes, aren't I.

    At least, unlike you, I can string together words in English that people can
    understand.

    Have a great day, Barry Edwin Chu****; when are you starting those remedial
    English classes?

    And you have said many times you have me kill filed (though I knew you
    hadn't), you lying POS.
     
    Dyna Soar, Mar 17, 2010
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  15. Morgan Vening

    hippo Guest

    I beg to differ. On a CT110 doing mostly junk mail runs an O-ring chain
    definitely lasts longer lubed even only every 1000Km than one that doesn't
    get touched. Old one was stuffed inside a year. This one's gone 2 so far
    and has hardly moved up the adjustment scale.

    BTW, the Bel Ray aerosol lube can for one has pretty good directions on it.
     
    hippo, Mar 17, 2010
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  16. Morgan Vening

    hippo Guest

    Sorry. That should have addressed Marty H & not Andrew. Snooze time
    perhaps....
     
    hippo, Mar 17, 2010
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  17. Morgan Vening

    atec 77 Guest

    Oh glly gosh
    you have a name
    now what raymond ?
    not all kill files kill file all groups shushine
     
    atec 77, Mar 17, 2010
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  18. Morgan Vening

    Dyna Soar Guest

    Yes, she did. She's 92 years old now and still jokes about it. And I
    wonder who you got that info from (LOL) though it's not completely correct,
    either. My full first name is just Ray, not Raymond. But whatever, many
    people on Usenet know who I am, I don't keep my info a secret as you try
    (unsuccessfully) to do.
    Yet another error from you? Did you mean the childish comment "golly gosh"?
    I have your address, phone numbers, PO and box number (83*), ham radio
    call-sign (VK4*G*), birth date */*/1947, the full name of a certain sheila
    :) you know very well. Plus much more.
    You dared me once, a number of years ago, to get personal info on you and
    post it. I had all the info within a few hours, but I regard it as
    unethical to post *full* info (except enough to prove to you I have the
    info). Some of the info I have may be obsolete now, but I just can't be
    bothered checking for updates if indeed there are any.
    "shushine"? Shit, Bazza, you never heard of a spell checker or are you
    just pissed (or both)?
     
    Dyna Soar, Mar 17, 2010
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  19. Morgan Vening

    VTR250 Guest

    You need to be specific about road/dirt bike, type of chain, and it's
    operating environment. There's always someone who'll tell you "just
    do ... and she'll be alright!"

    I tried Googling Motorcycle Chain Maufacturers to see if they had any
    advice.

    From http://www.ekchain.com/faqs.htm...

    The O-rings... only seal the factory-installed grease between the pins
    and bushings. As with any chain, you still need to lubricate between
    the bushings and rollers to prolong service life. (nb: use
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roller_chain for parts terminology).

    "Sealed chains should be lubed only with lubricants specifically
    marked as being suitable for O-ring chains. A good chain lube should
    adhere well and have good penetrating qualities to get deep inside the
    spaces between bushings and rollers. Non-sealed chains may be lubed
    with any quality chain lube, or SAE 80/90 wt. oil." So, by their
    reasoning, I am doing it wrong at the moment. I use a squirt of
    engine oil in a chain-oiler 2-3 times a week, and once every two
    weeks, I lift up the rear of the motorcycle using a paddock stand, run
    it in gear and squirt WD40 on to the edge of the entire chain (i.e.
    the rollers, 8 <-, from about 2" away ) for the entire chain length.
    It makes no difference to the life of the chain*, 18,000 km, because
    it always gets replaced on the third service in my experience. Chains
    don't last as well in winter, do you ride in all weather, all year, or
    only on dry weekends?

    * Alright, it does make a difference. I once wrecked a good chain in
    only a couple of months using that Bel Ray white wax stuff. It turns
    out it was recommended for dirt bikes only, not road bikes. It
    doesn't penetrate (too waxy for a road bike) but it does pick up grit
    and turn to a grinding paste. I think it would've lasted longer if I
    had allowed it to simply rust.
     
    VTR250, Mar 18, 2010
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  20. Morgan Vening

    VTR250 Guest

    Followup:
    http://www.quality-cycle.com/truth_about_motorcycle_chains.htm
    Search for "How to Correctly Lube your Chain!" and remember: five
    exclamation marks is supposed to be a sure sign of insanity!!!!!
     
    VTR250, Mar 18, 2010
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