superbikes

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Racing' started by ezzy, Aug 29, 2005.

  1. ezzy

    ezzy Guest

    Did anyone know who won this weekends superbikes from cadwell park?
     
    ezzy, Aug 29, 2005
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    Julian Bond Guest

    http://www.msttiming.com/meeting.asp?source=bsb2005&event=53404

    Race 1
    Tommy Hill, Lavilla, Richards

    Race 2
    Haslam, Lavilla, Kiyonari

    The HRC team were curiously off the pace all weekend. The championship
    is now
    Lavilla 326
    Rutter 324
    Kiyonari 317
    Haslam 243

    With 6 races remaining.

    We've now had 5 different race winners and 9 different people on the
    podium.
     
    Julian Bond, Aug 30, 2005
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    Julian Bond Guest

    He's been getting better and better as he learns. And just like Yamaha
    Italy, the bike is getting better too.

    A bigger question is why Rutter and Kiyonari were so far off the pace
    when they've been pretty dominant all season.
    All sorts of things come to mind.
    - Lavilla is hungry as he needs to find a way back into WSB.
    - He wasn't that bad in WSB. He just seemed a bit too polite.
    - GSE know what they're doing.
    - Hodgeson has given up
    - Ducati NA don't know what they're doing. That last one is perhaps
    unfair as Eric has been improving through the season as Hodgeson seems
    to get worse. But then I note that Eric was 40s back at VIR in the
    second race. That's not exactly competitive.

    As for the relative strength of the championships. It's interesting to
    compare the spread of times on the grid for last weekend's races. on a
    similar lap time, 2s back from pole was Scott Smart in 18th place and
    Neil Hodgson in 7th.
     
    Julian Bond, Aug 30, 2005
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    Phil Guest


    No question Maladin is good, but if Maladin is that good why doesn't he go
    and race in another championship
    and prove himself to the rest of the world

    Phil
     
    Phil, Aug 31, 2005
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    Phil Guest

    Most of these guys are ultra competitive and always looking to new
    challenges or to make
    it to the premiere class if it was just about making a living then many
    could retire now including Maladin,
    look at Rossi, Bayliss, Hodgeson, Hayden, Hopkins, Byrne to name
    a few most of these guys could earn a decent living in there respective
    National championships,
    Maladin sitting in the AMA does not give him the credibility of say Haydon
    or Hopper.
    Of course much of this depends on getting a good ride, but haydon did it!
    I think Maladin is a quality rider, and I for one would like to see him
    running with the worlds best

    Phil

    Phil
     
    Phil, Aug 31, 2005
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    Phil Guest


    Re-read the post I did not say he was not competitive, and he is clearly not
    in need of the money

    Thanks, Exactly my point he is Racing in the AMA withguys who are unproven
    except in the AMA except for Hodgeson whose world title was pretty shallow
    IMO
     
    Phil, Aug 31, 2005
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    Phil Guest

    Excuse me but how do you come to the conculsion that I am a Euro??
    Pure assumption, I do not get into the my series is better than yours, I
    watch
    Moto GP, WSB, AMA and BSB, this year BSB is giving the most exciting racing
    but I do not claim it is better than AMA or WSB because that is a pathetic
    argument
    that cannot be proved.

    By the way I am an Australian living in the UK and Spain and I would in
    particular like to see
    Mladin racing outside the AMA, IMO he is not currently racing against the
    worlds best, I would also
    like to see Rossi get beaten, as I said earlier for these guys it's not
    about the money its about proving
    a point.
     
    Phil, Sep 1, 2005
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  8. ezzy

    Phil Guest


    Exactly, I am not saying that they are bad riders, but they (except
    Hodgeson) are only Racing in AMA, as an Aussie
    I am a Fan of Mladin, Corser and Bayliss to name a few, but I want to see
    Mladin slugging it out with some new competition.
    Of course it is his choice to stay where he is and he may have his reasons,
    but I believe he could get a competitive ride in Moto GP,
    after all Hayden did, who I believe will be world champ once Rossi is off
    the scene.Look at Ben Bostrum looked like a potential
    WSB champ one year then what??

    I have at no point slated the AMA or made irrational comments on the quality
    of various domestic championships, which is totally
    pointless and based on emotions as opposed to fact, I could of course quote
    Doohan, Corser and Bayliss, Vermulen, Muggeridge, Pitt to name a few
    and say that the Aussies are producing the best riders so there domestic
    series must be the best, but that's bullshit of course as is claiming that
    the AMA is better than
    BSB or other domestic championships.We can all quote various races etc, look
    at how Shakey Byrne decimated the WSB field at Brands a few years back, that
    doesn't
    make BSB beter than WSB.
    Mladin is sitting in a comfort zone of his choice, but IMO I would like to
    see him proving himself outside of the AMA, because I believe he has the
    ability to compete
    with riders at world level.
     
    Phil, Sep 1, 2005
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    Phil Guest


    Well that's really impossible to say because neither you or me are party to
    any negotiations that may have or
    could take place. I totally agree that some of the politics stink, but I
    stand by my original thinking that Mladin
    is so clearly in a class of his own in AMA that it is down right boring to
    watch, I guess realistically the only ride
    that he may get would be Bayliss at Camel Honda of course Suzuki but that's
    not really on the pace of course.
    I agree with you that it is unlikely to happen, but it would be so good to
    see the Euros getting a whopping.
     
    Phil, Sep 2, 2005
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    Julian Bond Guest

    Oh good grief. Not another one.
     
    Julian Bond, Sep 2, 2005
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    Phil Guest

    So whats wrong with wanting to see Rossi getting beaten?? is he not a Euro??
     
    Phil, Sep 2, 2005
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    Phil Guest

    But I don't and haven't said that, what I have said is that I would like to
    see Mladin in Moto GP because I think
    he could be competitive if he got a decent ride, I would also like to see
    Corser and Shakey with decent rides in Moto GP
    I am not anti any series unlike some! Rossi is a great rider IMO but as we
    all know it can get boring with the same people
    winning week in week out. That is why IMO BSB is such great entertainment
    this year, plenty of hard racing, different
    winners no real dominant team, the championship can go three ways with three
    rounds to go (stand to be corrected)
    Cadwell at the weekend was simply fantastic viewing, and having ridden the
    circuit many times as I guess you have
    you can really appreciate the skill and balls of those guys. What a
    refreshing win it was for Tommy Hill and lets hope
    the R6 cup can produce more racers coming through the ranks hopefully
    towards Moto GP

    I have a lot of respect for many British riders, along with American and
    wherever, competitive racing is good for the sport
    nobody wants to see boring racing, and we all know politics and sponsorship
    come into it, what I would like to see is
    a progressional route for the best domestic riders to get to world series
    such as WSB and Moto GP, but with present state
    of play that is unlikely
     
    Phil, Sep 2, 2005
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