Suspension woes...

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Chad Tolkien, Jul 21, 2003.

  1. Chad Tolkien

    Chad Tolkien Guest

    Can anyone recomend anyone in Sydney to take my TLR too to get her to
    handle?!. Everyone has told me to junk the rear rotary suspension getup, so
    I replaced it with an Ohlins and that didn't help (+7 seconds round Eastern
    Creek! ) ... I'm pretty sure my problem is my weight is out of the
    suspension's working range...(both the front and the rear, I'm too dam
    light!).

    Anyone got a ball park figure of how much it's going to cost too, to get the
    works? (new springs, gold (=brass?)-valved etc..)

    -Chad.
     
    Chad Tolkien, Jul 21, 2003
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  2. I'm pretty sure my problem is my weight is out of the >suspension's working range...(both the front and the rear, I'm too dam light!).

    then you should have got a spring on your ohlins to suit your
    weight... They ask shit like that when you order
     
    Biggus The Greatest, Jul 21, 2003
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  3. Chad Tolkien

    Chad Tolkien Guest

    I know, I'm hooked on everything *but* they way it handles. It seems like I
    can get it perfect, then the situation changes (road gets bumpy\smoothes
    out\speeds up) and it all goes to hell.. I am deffinatly on the light side,
    barely breaking 60kg.
    Well if this doesn't fix it, unfortunatly the TL will be going up for sale,
    as much as I love her, she's going to spit me into the weeds I think if I
    keep trying to *force* her to turn...

    -Chad
     
    Chad Tolkien, Jul 21, 2003
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  4. Chad Tolkien

    Chad Tolkien Guest

    working range...(both the front and the rear, I'm too dam light!).
    Purchase was second hand, the spring feels lighter then the original one,
    the rear suspension wouldn't budge when I hopped on it before, but yes I
    agree, I need new springs...!

    -Chad.
     
    Chad Tolkien, Jul 21, 2003
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    conehead Guest

    working range...(both the front and the rear, I'm too dam light!).
    Bullshit they do!
     
    conehead, Jul 21, 2003
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  6. Vulture the Great or Biggus the Vulture?

    Aaron
    ZX6R
    :)
     
    Aaron & Kylie, Jul 21, 2003
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  7. Chad Tolkien

    RM Guest

    i dunno how u'd go with the front springs if needed (maybe progressive or
    such), but i once had a good experience with having a rear spring made for a
    koni on a k100 cos i couldnt get a lighter one genuine...i put a scale under
    the back wheel and weighed the whole effect of bike and rider, then took off
    10% and got a spring maker to wind appropriate spring...cost a hunnert
    dollars or so and worked marvellously
     
    RM, Jul 21, 2003
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  8. Chad Tolkien

    Paul Guest

    I had rear ohlins on my TLR and front end was revalved also with ohlin
    springs (way i bought the bike)
    After i played with the settings i was very happy with the handling, i was
    never able to compare
    it to a stock TLR as i never had chance to ride a TLR with a rotary rear
    shock. I also had ohlins
    damper on it as well. Only track i rode it on was Broadford, tight and
    technical, and i was able
    to outride someone on a gsxr 1000 with similiar skills on a bike.. i think
    to do the forks
    you could be look at around $600-1000 depending on what you want done.

    Paul
    03 - R1
    96 Gixxer 750
     
    Paul, Jul 21, 2003
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  9. You have me curious about my K100's suspension now. I weigh in at
    around 60KG wringing wet and find the rear end of the bike to bounce
    and feel very stiff. Other riders have commented on how it looks
    "twitchy" when they have riden behind me. I must say there have bee
    times when I've been less than confident with it's handling but have
    just put it down to rider.

    Should I be looking into suspension options?
    __


    Cheers
    The Happy Drunk
    K100RT
     
    The Happy Drunk, Jul 21, 2003
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  10. Chad Tolkien

    John Littler Guest

    I've not used him but apparently Terry Hays "Shock treatment" is pretty good -
    there's another guy in that area Al Pennykid knows who's supposed to be pretty
    good as well.

    JL
     
    John Littler, Jul 21, 2003
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  11. Chad Tolkien

    conehead Guest

    Yep, you should
     
    conehead, Jul 21, 2003
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    atec77 Guest

    The rear on my k100 , and Im heavy was twitchy when purchased.. now with
    a Boge gas shock and a lighter spring , about 30 kg softer is good...
    cornering is better and it doesn't shake my back fillings out,
    also have a good think about the front end. is it soft or hard ?. is it
    damping or like mine needed progressive springs..
     
    atec77, Jul 21, 2003
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  13. You deal with the wrong places then.

    Ohlins and Whitepower I ran for yrs, always asked what weight rider..
    Although Whitepower distrubuter in Melb yrs ago sent me a VF750 shock
    for a TT600...
     
    Biggus The Greatest, Jul 21, 2003
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  14. Chad Tolkien

    RM Guest

    yes, i found the std shock to be well sprung but underdamped so i got the
    koni, which was oversprung and made the back end very hard, so a new spring
    was made...the front got 'progressive' springs cos it was very soggy, and 15
    wt oil...the end result was quite nice, with the rear damped well and
    adjustable from too soft to hard enuf to support a pillion and gear. the
    k100's handle quite well once set up proper like but are subject to
    wallowing and carrying on in high speed corners where the road undulates, a
    bumpy corner seems to be ok but they dont like 'waves' in the road...a fork
    brace helps in this regard, but i found i could not use the 'clamp' type as
    it squoze the top of the fork leg too much, an aluminium one was made to
    attach on mudguard mounts...also tyres, a michelin radial front and
    conventional pirelli? rear worked well...top cornering speed was still
    limited to about 160 kph in sweepers before chassis flex took over, but in
    tight cornering it startled many a sport rider who thought a 'big heavy
    tourer' should have been much further behind.
     
    RM, Jul 21, 2003
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  15. Thanks guys. it looks like I need to do some homework :)

    __


    Cheers
    The Happy Drunk
    K100RT
     
    The Happy Drunk, Jul 22, 2003
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  16. Chad Tolkien

    RM Guest

    IDEA!! measure outside diameter of shock body...get thick walled pipe with
    id to match od...cut 20 mm off pipe, cut in half, compress spring, put in
    pieces of pipe, secure with hose clamp, release spring...now much harder,
    cost...about $3.50...




     
    RM, Jul 22, 2003
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    John Littler Guest

    Errm that only increases the preload it does NOT change the compression rate of
    the spring. Even the most primitive of bikes has preload.

    Oh, and you'll decrease your suspension travel while you're at it...

    JL
     
    John Littler, Jul 29, 2003
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  18. Chad Tolkien

    John Littler Guest

    <sigh> Welcome to usenet. You post an answer THEN ask what was the question ?
    Sheesh !

    JL
     
    John Littler, Jul 30, 2003
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