Suzuki Regulator question

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Will, Dec 28, 2005.

  1. Will

    Will Guest

    It appears my regulator has died in my 82 GSX1100EZ. My bike has a 5 wire
    regulator - 3 wires to the stator (one going via the headlight switch) and a
    red output and black earth wire.

    I have several 6 wire versions in my shed and I was wondering if I could
    replace it with one of them. Trouble is I can't work out where the sixth
    wire connects to. On some regulators it's green and on others it's a brown
    wire. I'm told the original Suzuki regulators will burn out frequently.
     
    Will, Dec 28, 2005
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  2. Will

    J5 Guest

    it is a voltage sensing wire , connect it direct to the + at the
    battery

    its easy to tell as you will have 3 yellow for the stator

    2 thin wires which are your battery + and earth and the last will be a
    thin wire

    wire it all the way through direct to the battery and be sure to put a
    fuse inline of the + often a 30 amp

    bad connections cause an increase in current and heat , causing
    failures
     
    J5, Dec 28, 2005
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  3. Will

    Will Guest



    Thanks,
    I had a look at my firends 80's GSX. It also has a 6 wire aftermarket
    regulator.
    The sixth wire is connected to the current side of the rear brake light
    switch. Since this comes from the battery via the ignition ON switch will it
    do to make a connection to the battery or should it be direct.?
    On;y reason I ask is that I'm not keen on making extra connections at the
    battery posts becausse they can corode and also make the battery complicated
    to remove.
     
    Will, Dec 28, 2005
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  4. That 6th wire is a good idea. It acts as a power sensor, I think. Ended
    up putting one on my old Suzy and, along with the addition of some good
    earth wires from various components, my deaded stator and R/R problems
    disappeared.

    The 6th (brown?) wire is best spliced into the wire that feeds your
    brake lights (just before the rear brake lever switch is good), as that
    way it will only draw current when the key is turned on.

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    Cheers

    PeterC [aka MildThing]
    '81 Suzuki GS450-s (gone on to better and brighter things - I hope)
    '87 BMW K100RT (write-off)
    '81 Yamaha Virago (XV) 750H (work in progress)
    '01 Yamaha FJR1300

    www.dmcsc.org.au
    http://eladesom.com.au/ulysses/
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    Peter Cremasco, Dec 28, 2005
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  5. By connecting it to something that is only live when the key is on, it
    won't drain the battery while the bike is idle in the shed.

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    Cheers

    PeterC [aka MildThing]
    '81 Suzuki GS450-s (gone on to better and brighter things - I hope)
    '87 BMW K100RT (write-off)
    '81 Yamaha Virago (XV) 750H (work in progress)
    '01 Yamaha FJR1300

    www.dmcsc.org.au
    http://eladesom.com.au/ulysses/
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    Peter Cremasco, Dec 28, 2005
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  6. Will

    Will Guest


    Thanks PeterC,
    You have been most helpful. I will wire it to the rear brake light switch as
    per my mate's bike.
    I don't know how long this Regulator will last. It's not the replacement
    that bothers me as I have plenty of old ones lying around. It's the fact
    that it always lets me down at the worst time, 100 miles from home and it
    usually takes the stator and battery along with it.
    Also would it be a good idea to wire the three stator wires direct to the
    regulator rather than routing one through the headlight switch. I've heard
    that using only two stator coils when the headlight is off is not a good
    idea and it would be better to have them all active at all times?

    Also advise on the web is to fit an Electrex unit which handles the heat
    build-up better. Has anyone had any experience with them?

    ..
     
    Will, Dec 28, 2005
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  7. Been there. Done that. Got tired of it awful fast.
    I've stuck with one going through the headlight, on the premises that
    you only need the extra power when the headlight is switched on anyway,
    and that otherwise the extra heat would build up in the unit which, I
    suspect, contributes to the R/R failures. Not sure how sound my logic
    was, but it seemed to work for me.



    ---
    Cheers

    PeterC [aka MildThing]
    '81 Suzuki GS450-s (gone on to better and brighter things - I hope)
    '87 BMW K100RT (write-off)
    '81 Yamaha Virago (XV) 750H (work in progress)
    '01 Yamaha FJR1300

    www.dmcsc.org.au
    http://eladesom.com.au/ulysses/
    # 37181
     
    Peter Cremasco, Dec 29, 2005
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  8. Will

    Will Guest

    "'81 Suzuki GS450-s (gone onto better and BRIGHTER things- I hope)"
    a pun right ?
    LOL :)
     
    Will, Dec 29, 2005
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  9. Will

    Dr.Shifty Guest

    The old Suzy stator/battery/R/R setup has a great habit of failing. A common
    symptom is the battery boiling dry because the stator is producing too much
    current for it to handle, and the R/R unit can't do it either. You will find a
    heap of info here http://www.thegsresources.com
    Check out The Stator Pages. And the forum has many people who have solved
    similar problems. The most common bit of advice is to clean, or solder, every
    electrical connector on the bike, especially earth connectors.

    Don't (that was a DON'T) wire up all your stator wires without reference to the
    headlight, it will cook the battery. And once the battery is not drawing off the
    current the stator will burn out. The headlight is a part of the current
    management as the R/R unit can't take full load and needs the headlight as a
    heat sink. It's better to wire it up through relays as the switch is very flimsy
    brass - my switch has burnt out and I keep telling myself to get some relays,
    still on the "to do" list.

    Kim
     
    Dr.Shifty, Jan 2, 2006
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  10. Will

    Bummers Guest

    I've got an Yamaha regulator on my GSX. (Don't ask me what model - it
    has the right amount of wires)
    It's been there from well before I bought the bike & I've done over
    60,000 ks with no problems.

    Bummers

     
    Bummers, Jan 2, 2006
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