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badoom-tish

 

Quite.

Rather undermines every other post you've made in the thread, mind.

 

But there are still differences in what makes a charter airline a
charter, and a scheduled airline a sheduled.

So scheduled = It's a bus
And charter = It's bought by a party of people or travel companies and
needs to be pretty much full in order to make the route viable.

British Airways were sending empty aircraft between Cardiff and London
a year or two ago so that competitors couldn't get a license to fly
that route, even though they nobody was able to purchase tickets for
it.

 

There's a reason for that which has nothing to do with blocking other
operators.

BA has a major service centre at Cardiff for 747s & 777s. There's a
training facility for service personnel, and a number of aeronautical
engineering courses run by the University of Glamorgan.

Now, most of those 747 & 777s will be based on long haul routes from London
airports. As flights in/out of LHR & LGW are at a premium and BA wants the
aircraft back in service ASAP, it is no surprise that they accommodate the
movements as part of their overall timetable.

 

That may all be true, but the flights Nick mentioned were using an
Airbus.

 

and those flights were made by BMed after they were taken over by *BMI* to
keep the slot open so that it could eventually be sold to BA, as part of a
£30million package.

 

And then even more staff, to man the shorter shifts?

I think we need less airport security, at least of the kind that only
annoys innocent passengers, and fails to spot the occasional "hazardous
item".

Any real hijackers would be able to figure out a way to get through
whatever items they would want to use.

 

Yes. I went on an AI package to Majorca via Travel-o-city using an Easyjet
flight, although the aircraft was still in Go livery.

 

Sorry, I'm wrong on this, women were losing lighters at heathrow but
only because they were in their bags. apparently you can take one
lighter onboard but only if it's on your person, if it's in a bag then
presumably it makes it more explosive or something.

ok then flammable, excuse the exaggeration when I'm in self rightious
rant mode.

Well you've got what, the best part of a litre of other liquids to play
with? I'm not sure you could get pure methanol/ethanol onboard but some
perfumes have alcohol levels up in the 70% range so that should help.
I'd originally thought of something like sodium but you'd be better off
reacting that with water.

If the risk of mixing high explosives on a plane is so high that we
have to take on small amounts of liquids then I'd have thought that
giving them a couple of litres of alcohol would just make things easier
to make some kind of incendiary device.

 

It certainly used to be possible to book a holiday with BA. Would
that make BA a charter company?

 

That's not the case. It's much easier to sneak a platic one through if
it's in a pocket, as long as you don't have metal to cause the sensor
to beep you, but they're most definitely not allowed on board.

 

Http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/1219/20081222WhatCanICarry.pdf

But then again I've quoted CAA regs to a check in desk when asked about
compressed air bottles.

"They must be empty and the valve open."

"That's not what the regs say."

"What regs?"

"The regs that your company has to abide by."

Shows him extract from regs.

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/1219/20081222WhatCanICarry.pdf

"I don't care what the regs say!"

So I offer to open my dive bag if he can get a knife or scissors (they
are zip tied up).

"You must have a dive knife."

"It's in the zipped up dive bag."

"We are not allowed any cutting implement at check in."

Disappears and gets Gatwick's one pair of scissors with rounded ends.

I remove a small "bail out" bottle, open the valve on a low pressure as
is recommended. After a loud long whoosh I notice that there isn't
anyone in the queue behind me, they have all buggered off.

I then closed the valve telling him I was opening it fully, (so as not
to get moisture in the bottle).

 

I sit corrected.

 

If you're booking a package holiday (hotel & transport) it would make
them a holiday company.

Virgin are an airline (Virgin Atlantic) but one can also book package
holidays through them which they sell through Virgin Holidays, a
different company in the same Group.

 

An exception *disproves* the rule, rather than validating it.

 

Everyone who works in travel (and all of my colleagues, head of
aviation in my company and the general aviation department and
ticketing team) seem to agree with me and seeing as I do this for a
living I think I've got it right too.

 

Up to a point, Lord Copper[1]. You should not confuse industry jargon
with how everyone else measures such things.

[1] I /think/ that I agree with your POV, nonetheless.

 

I don't give a **** about the argument in question. I'm just saying
that an exception *doesn't* prove a rule; it disproves it.

 

Looks like different states have different laws then. A colleague of mine
flying back from NY had a new Zippo in his hand luggage and they confiscated
it from him, as it was too late to put it in his hold luggage.

And the time I got told to hand over my gas lighter was in Chicago.