Tank Cleaning.

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Black Bart, Feb 4, 2004.

  1. Black Bart

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "Knobdoodle" wrote
    Both! Poser-Permit 43.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Feb 10, 2004
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  2. The award for Scorning Mere Anecdotes, Researching Truth And Relating Said
    Explanation, first awarded to Jeffles for his research into the braking distance
    of tanks.

    --
    // Rik Steenwinkel '85 R80ST Skippy bike
    // Enschede '91 R100GS/PD The Great Unwashed
    // Netherlands '90 K75C Kommutabike
    // "Far away is only far away '81 MZ TS250/1+LSW Badkuip
    // if you don't go there" '79 Honda XL250S TBD
     
    Rik Steenwinkel, Feb 10, 2004
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  3. Nearly - I started that one after a discussion (read argument) in a
    pub one night with an ex-army guy who was trying to tell me that a
    tank could stop in half its length from 80 km/h. I started thinking
    about the kinetic energy stored in something weighing 20 tonnes and
    how that energy would have to be dispersed to pull the bloody thing up
    in that sort of distance (still reckon it's bullshit).

    Cheers



    -------------
    Kevin Gleeson
    Technical Director
    Blue Rocket Productions
    Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
    www.blue-rocket.com.au
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Feb 10, 2004
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  4. Black Bart

    Knobdoodle Guest

    X-No-archive: yes
    Rik Steenwinkel wrote in message ...
    Ha ha; I remember Jeffles' S.M.A.R.T.A.R.S.E. sigfile but I'd never seen it
    spelt out before!
    What was the award for maintaining the faith against insurmountable odds?
    (Like if someone says "I can't ride because my wife died delivering my
    sextuplet children...." and someone else will pop up with "that happened to
    me but I fitted 6 sidecars to my MZ250...")
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 10, 2004
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  5. Black Bart

    conehead Guest

    I reckon it would take a while to get the dirt out of the barrel of the main
    gun.

    Thinking hypothetically, and trying to picture a Centurion (the only tank I
    know a tiny bit about), I can picture a big stoppie, a barrel hitting the
    ground, the a rather noisy clank-type sound. Maybe it could be done. I
    wouldn't like to be inside it, though.
     
    conehead, Feb 11, 2004
    #65
  6. On 10/2/04 12:13 AM, in article
    Nah, it was clear to the left. Therefore, go.......

    Result, Bang! Panel damage is at 6k, suspension yet to be quoted on....

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Feb 11, 2004
    #66
  7. Ta! Driver apologised and admitted fault before Kath needed to do anything!

    Hammo

    Dissection kit? Where is Sam when you need her?

    PS 6K in panels, getting suspension assessed now....
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Feb 11, 2004
    #67
  8. Probably some loser.....

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Feb 11, 2004
    #68
  9. Heh, even the cop that was first on the scene associated me with the wrong
    vehicle!

    I'll tell you the rest over a beer....

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Feb 11, 2004
    #69
  10. "Driver" wasn't tuning right.........


    [1] Careful with that, unless it is very late at night....

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Feb 11, 2004
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  11. Black Bart

    sharkey Guest

    .... and someone exclaiming "Nice one, Centurion!"

    -----sharks (it's inevitable)
     
    sharkey, Feb 11, 2004
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  12. Black Bart

    GB Guest

    You've misspwelled "Centuwion".

    G
     
    GB, Feb 11, 2004
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  13. Black Bart

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "Hamish Alker-Jones" wrote
    Driver was out of tune?

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Feb 11, 2004
    #73

  14. *Points turret to one side,and tries again...*


    Postman Pat
     
    Pat Heslewood, Feb 12, 2004
    #74
  15. Lessee, taking a Leopard 2 as example. Length is 7m69. Top speed on road is
    72km/h. Combat weight is 55 ton.

    To decelerate to zero from 72km/h or 20m/s in, leaving some slack here, 4m
    appears to be possible only if you hit a suitably-sized block of concrete.
    Plugging the above numbers into the venerable s(t)=s0 + v0*t + 0.5*a*t^2 and
    v(t)=v0 + a*t results in t=0.4s and a=-50m/s^2, or a little over 5g. Also, you
    need to be dissipating 0.5*m*v^2, which is 110MJ of energy in those 0.4s.

    If you relax the braking distance to be equal to its (chassis) length you get
    t=0.8s and a=-25m/s^2, 2.5g. I think that could be doable. I've certainly seen
    video footage of a tank showing some impressive braking, but I couldn't tell if
    it was approaching that last set of figures.

    --
    // Rik Steenwinkel '85 R80ST Skippy bike
    // Enschede '91 R100GS/PD The Great Unwashed
    // Netherlands '90 K75C Kommutabike
    // "Far away is only far away '81 MZ TS250/1+LSW Badkuip
    // if you don't go there" '79 Honda XL250S TBD
     
    Rik Steenwinkel, Feb 12, 2004
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  16. Black Bart

    sharkey Guest

    .... so the question is, where is its center of gravity, and where
    is the point it is trying to rotate around? Then you can work out
    if it'll stoppie or not :)

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Feb 12, 2004
    #76
  17. Yeah, as it is both shaft- and chaindrive you'll have to resort to scientific
    methods for that.

    --
    // Rik Steenwinkel '85 R80ST Skippy bike
    // Enschede '91 R100GS/PD The Great Unwashed
    // Netherlands '90 K75C Kommutabike
    // "Far away is only far away '81 MZ TS250/1+LSW Badkuip
    // if you don't go there" '79 Honda XL250S TBD
     
    Rik Steenwinkel, Feb 13, 2004
    #77
  18. Black Bart

    sharkey Guest

    It's belt drive too (kind of).

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Feb 13, 2004
    #78

  19. I wasn't allowed to "tune" his head...

    Hammo

    ....and he kept apologising and telling me it was his fault, and he was
    wearing glasses!
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Feb 18, 2004
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