Tasmanian Road Safety (cough, front numberplate) Strategy

I have a .pdf copy of the Ulysses Club's response to the 'safety' strategy
working paper, but in my advancing senility I can't remember how to put it
on a website.

Anyone interested in putting it on a site? It's 60kb.

 

Email it to aaronkylieatsitedotcomdotau

Aaron
ZX6R

 

Thanks, Aaron. Has been done.

 

Done.

http://203.144.22.76/stuff/Tasmanian Strategy2.pdf

Aaron
ZX6R

 

You'd reckon they'd run a spell checker over it before they submitted it.

Signed off by the Ulysses club national vice president Neville Grey. The same
Ulysses club national vice president Neville Grey who flew from Adelaide to
Melbourne to consult with the Victorian Government shortly before they
announced the introduction of the $50 motorcycle levy and then published
comments on the Ulysses club website saying that the Victorian riders should
accept the levy as inevitable and stop whinging. When are you old farts going
to get rid of him?

Nev..
'03 ZX12R
'02 CBR1100XX

 

Nev.. wrote:

Dunno.

Although I am a card-carrying Old Fart, I have no input into the
democratic processes of running the Ulysses Club.
(Not that I'm complaining.)

Lets get serious about this, tho. The Vic $50 thing was pretty much
inevitable. We (as in motorcyclists) are a fairly insignificant minority
of the population. Even within that minority, we have widely differing
views on just about anything. We are not very organised in a political
sense, and most of us just want to ride our bikes.
So governments can basically do what they like to us.

What, exactly, did you expect the U.C. to do about it?

What would you have done in Neville Grey's place?

regards,
CrazyCam

 

I joined Ulysses to go riding. IMHO it has too much bureaucratic
overhead anyhow. If it never did a political thing in its life I'd be
well pleased.

I can have much better politicial input through other mechanisms.

Cheers
Goaty

 

Strange point of view from someone who is (unless I am mistaken) a
representative on the NSW MCC. Why then do you support the input the NSW MCC
has in steering government policy instead of just rolling over and taking
whatever is inevitable up the clacker? So you'd support the introduction of a
$50 levy in NSW?

Represent the best interests of their members? Shown solidarity with other
motorcycling organisations in the state? Not partaken in secret talks with
politicians?

I dunno, should they consult with the members to find out what the clubs
position should be? As I understand it, Neville Grey may have been the only
motorcycling organisation representative which the Victorian Government
consulted before introducing the levy - probably because he represented the
greatest proportion of riders in the state. (They may have also consulted one
on one with the then president of the MRAA however he has since passed away).

Nev..
'03 ZX12R
'02 CBR1100XX

 

It was explained to me, in no uncertain terms, both times I've been to a
Ulysses meeting, that Ulysses is not about politics. In my experience, the
members say (many expressions to the effect of) "**** Politics!"

So, in Nev's terms, they deliberately set out to, actually want to "just
rolling over and taking whatever is inevitable up the clacker."

Strangely enough, Ulysses himself was no shrinking violet in the overtly
political world of the Late Bronze Age. Anyone remember how he dealt with
the suitors?

Gary

 

Yes I have always understood this to be the case Gary, which only goes to make
it all the more puzzling why the national vice president flew to Melbourne to
hold consultations with the Victorian Government prior to the introduction of
the $50 levy.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R
'02 CBR1100XX

 

Maybe they had as much result preventing its implementation as you and every
other Victoria who tried did, Nev?

 

Nope, I don't believe that at all. If that were the case, surely the word
would have been leaked and something could have been done. Its a lot easier
to get government policy changed before it becomes policy rather than after.
Prior to the formal announcement it can be withdrawn without the government
being seen to be backing down. The first anyone heard about the $50 levy was
at the announcement of the Victorian state budget, of which it was a part, and
everyone who was playing that hand held their cards very close to their chest.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R
'02 CBR1100XX

 

I think we're talking at cross purposes.

 

Indeed. I wonder if he felt duty bound to report on his consultation to
the membership. I wonder if he actually did report on his consultation to
the membership. As if the members cared; that would inevitably be "too
political".

Gary (as if I cared)

 

You are not mistaken, but, part of the brief was that the U.C, is
non-poticical.....unless _severely_ pushed.

No I wouldn't suppory the levy in NSW,,,,,, not that my opinion would be
worth a damn!

Nev, what, exactly, do _you_ know about democracy?

The NSW Motorcycle Council isn't a democratic body.

How _legitimate_ was the vote for Zebee, or John L.?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not picking on either of those persons, but, I
was attending the MCC as a rep of MacMod...(also non-elected, but I was
nearby, anmd silly enough to go.)... and I was asked, by a then-National
Committee Member, if I'd "stand-in" for him. I said yes.

How? There are over 20,000 members, many (uncounted!) with the feeling
that U.C. is apolitical. (Hi there Goaty!)

I know it is dificult to handle......but the biggest bike club in Oz,
has, at heart, the concept of being a-political? (So hang me for it! :-|)

Nev. I am really sory to burst any bubble of thought you may have of
democracy, political fairness, and similar phantoms of the folk not
paying attention to the real world, but....as one of the spokespersons
for U.C. on the NSWMCC, I am constantly aware of both the number of
bikies I represent, _and_ the potential for lack of support. <shrug>

As for Nev. Grey. he's a big lad....all grown up.... If you want to
pick on him.....go for it.

If you want to make a constructive suggestion as to what he could have
done...... I (for one!) am all ears.

regards,
CrazyCam