[QUOTE] That's why I bought the three man version for winter use. The much larger porch means I can use a multifuel stove without too much fear of instant death. Yep. I'd not be too happy taking a really expensive tent to a festival/rally. You'll just have to do it dog style and just take a tarp. I'd be seriously impressed if you managed that at the 'phant.[/QUOTE] Would a bivvi bag count and how impressed is 'seriously impressed'? I've used a single skin bivvi on mountains before and not suffered from the cold and it's not as if I'm going to be taking a lot of kit with me.