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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Doesnotcompute, Jul 28, 2005.

  1. [1] Thank **** for that.

    Socket and sorted the mischievous banjo bolt, a quick pipe change over
    ensued, complete with doing all the bolts back up.

    A good clean up and upon firing it up, no more leaks! huzzah!.

    Topped up with oil, let it settle. Just took it out for a spin, no more
    blue smoke and no more drips.

    One slightly odd moment, having taken it easy for a bit, got it, the
    tyres and me warm, I then opened it up for a bit - and the fucker cut
    out. Just died - at about a ton. Clutched in, down to neutral, both oil
    and neutral light on (as should be), hit the started and it started.

    Shit in the carbs/fuel filter? It's been stood for 10 days or so.



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    Dnc

    B1200 - +30bhp ~|~ ZZR1100 - tagline being developed
    V2300 - flat cap and rug ~|~ VS800 - borked

    MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
     
    Doesnotcompute, Jul 28, 2005
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    Muck Guest

    More like shit / oil in the side stand switch?
     
    Muck, Jul 28, 2005
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  3. In uk.rec.motorcycles, Muck amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:
    Carb icing in the Scuberth Concept?
     
    Whinging Courier, Jul 28, 2005
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  4. Doesnotcompute

    Muck Guest

    Is the proper answer. :)
     
    Muck, Jul 28, 2005
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  5. Doesnotcompute

    Muck Guest

    I haven't the faintest idea what that means.
     
    Muck, Jul 28, 2005
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  6. Doesnotcompute

    Dan L Guest

    It's fucked mate, give you a tenner for it.

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    Dan L (Oldbloke)
    My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R (Going)
    Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament)
    BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)
     
    Dan L, Jul 28, 2005
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  7. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Doesnotcompute
    FFS man, that bike has been *totally* reliable for four years. Now you
    keep breaking it. Stop it at once.

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jul 28, 2005
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  8. excpet the foibles you had to list when handing over the keys ;)
    Gladly - now tell me what's up with it?

    please?



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    Dnc

    B1200 - +30bhp ~|~ ZZR1100 - tagline being developed
    V2300 - flat cap and rug ~|~ VS800 - borked

    MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
     
    Doesnotcompute, Jul 28, 2005
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  9. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Doesnotcompute
    <Mystic Meg Mode>

    I see a clutch or sidestand switch.

    </MMM>

    As you know, the clutch switch sometimes plays up on starting, but has
    never done anything odd whilst running.

    If it happens again, pull the clutch in and then dump it again, see if
    it bump starts.

    Failing that (and again, if it happens again), short out the sidestand
    switch and see if that cures it.

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jul 28, 2005
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  10. Been wondering about that one, cos it's a kwak and doesn't need the
    clutch in to start (in neutral at least).
    Backup Plan.

    thanks.




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    Dnc

    B1200 - +30bhp ~|~ ZZR1100 - tagline being developed
    V2300 - flat cap and rug ~|~ VS800 - borked

    MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
     
    Doesnotcompute, Jul 28, 2005
    #10

  11. Fucker did it again on the way home. Twice. first time, 6k rpm 80mph,
    the rev needle bounced up and down, bike lurched, popped a backfire and
    carried on as normal

    Then, a few moments later it just cut out. Coasted to a stop, tried to
    start, no go. Waggled clutch etc, no joy. Waggled side stand switch, no
    joy. Couple of moments later, fired up okay.

    I haven't knowingly done anything except remove the fairing panel,
    remove the fucked pipe, replace pip, replace side panel, top up with oil.

    So, either I've inadvertanly done something, what? or, it's a coincidence.

    What should I check before resorting to a dealer? I need to ride the
    fucker home in a week!

    cheers,




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    Dnc

    B1200 - +30bhp ~|~ ZZR1100 - tagline being developed
    V2300 - flat cap and rug ~|~ VS800 - borked

    MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
     
    Doesnotcompute, Jul 29, 2005
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  12. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Doesnotcompute
    Oh fucking hell...

    My first port of call would be to eliminate the sidestand switch by
    disconnecting the wires to it and connecting them together securely,
    then insulate them well with tape.

    <thinks>

    I'm 99.9% sure that the wires are connected to "go" and disconnected to
    "stop". Anyone confirm?

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jul 29, 2005
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  13. And on the way to town, and on the way back.
    Hmm, I'm doubting this more and more now.
    It starts fine from cold - ride a few miles, it cuts out. Wait a few
    minutes, it eventually fires up again, few more miles (but less than
    first time) it cuts again. Ad infinatum.

    Would a fuelling problem cause this? ie crap in the filter, trapped fuel
    line? or something, so from cold, the carbs and tubes are full. The crap
    then slows the feed to less than required so eventually it runs out.
    Dies. Doesn't start straight away, but fuel trickles through, builds up
    a qty, then the bike fires up. Ad infinatum.

    ?

    And just so I'm not paranoid, I did use m/c oil - but it wouldn't have
    anything to do with oil anyway right?




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    Dnc

    B1200 - +30bhp ~|~ ZZR1100 - tagline being developed
    V2300 - flat cap and rug ~|~ VS800 - borked

    MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
     
    Doesnotcompute, Jul 29, 2005
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  14. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Doesnotcompute
    Hmm... Does it die completely, or splutter a bit first?
    Possibly blocked breather on the fuel tank. Next time it happens, open
    the filler cap (listen for air being sucked in), then try to fire it up.
    If it starts immediately, there's your problem.
    Can't think of any way that it could, TBH.

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jul 29, 2005
    #14
  15. Good plan.

    Any idea where said breather is? behind RHS fairing panel per chance?
    TFFT.

    Cheers,






    --
    Dnc

    B1200 - +30bhp ~|~ ZZR1100 - tagline being developed
    V2300 - flat cap and rug ~|~ VS800 - borked

    MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
     
    Doesnotcompute, Jul 29, 2005
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  16. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Doesnotcompute
    Nope, it's in the filler cap.

    There's an overflow pipe (IIRC) that exits somewhere down on the RHS,
    but it's at the rear of the tank, well out of the way.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jul 29, 2005
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    Salad Dodger Guest

    Sounds like the Prime Suspect, to me.
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    Salad Dodger, Jul 29, 2005
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  18. Ahh. Okay.

    Tomorrow mornng I'm going to fire it up, leave it running and see if it
    replicates without being on the move.

    From there, I'll try the filler cap thing.

    Got you email btw, very generous, but I hope you won't be offended if I
    try and solve the problem instead ;o)

    PS: I have tried the tap on both reserve and on, same problem.
    PPS: Plenty of fuel - almost full tank, and yes, it is petrol.



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    Dnc

    B1200 - +30bhp ~|~ ZZR1100 - tagline being developed
    V2300 - flat cap and rug ~|~ VS800 - borked

    MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
     
    Doesnotcompute, Jul 29, 2005
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  19. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Doesnotcompute
    Unlikely, TBH. It'll be flowing very little fuel at tickover, so a
    partially blocked breather won't show. Mined ewe, it *will* get good and
    hot, so any electrickery bits'n'bobs that were vulnerable to heat would
    rear their ugly heads.
    OK. Can't remember, was there a spare key with it? It there is then put
    it in the tank, take it out for a thrash, and if it cuts then crack the
    tank whilst still on the move (DFC!) and try a bump start.
    Cnut. ;^) Offer's there if you need it.
    Same tank of fuel, or have you refilled since this began?

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jul 29, 2005
    #19
  20. Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:

    Yes, I even have it with me.
    I'd dismissed that as a silly idea. I'll give it a go :)
    Refilled in case it was shitty fuel or a lying fuel gauge etc.



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    Dnc

    B1200 - +30bhp ~|~ ZZR1100 - tagline being developed
    V2300 - flat cap and rug ~|~ VS800 - borked

    MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
     
    Doesnotcompute, Jul 29, 2005
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