The amazing denial of conspiracy kooks....

Let's try to keep up hanky. You must spend too much time cutting and
pasting....
http://www.debunking911.com/index.html

It's a fantastic site. It's almost like the person is talking directly
at you and blowing each and every idea you have had in the last 5 years
right out of the water.

Let's see what creative cut and paste hanky will do to the above to
make it pro-henry. Just like your kook buddies do to the quotes they
use.

Kirb

 

You forgot your hate for the jews...or is that what you meant by
"media"?

Different metals melt at different temps.

I am unable to find ANY sites that say a termite reaction of a
reasonable size will continue to react or have enough energy to keep
any metal molten for weeks.

How do you explain that, henry? How can:
1- the quantity of thermite be installed undetected?
2- the quantity of this magic substance to cut ALL the columns in the
building?
3- the reaction maintained long enough to keep metal molten for weeks?

You THINK you eliminated everything that could keep metal molten for
weeks, so therefore it must be thermite. That is not proof. You haven't
proven ANYTHING.

That is the part you fail to grasp.

Kirb

 

Oh wow. This is funny. Here's your anonymous magic fire conspiracy
kook hero attempting to explain the multiple violent explosions seen
blowing out the sides of the towers some 20-30 stories below the
collapse zone:

http://www.debunking911.com/overp.htm

"So what is this then? Why would debris jet out of windows far below
the collapse?
It could be a number of things, by themselves or in combination. One
reasonable explanation is a buildup of pressure caused by the
compression of air between the floors as they pancaked, (Please read the
link to explain the NIST / Pancaking issue) pushed debris out of the
already broken windows and/or open vents. Another is falling debris like
elevators or elevator parts/motors and/or columns free falling down the
elevator shafts and slamming into lower floors creating debris. In a
sense the floors are large plungers and the towers are just one big
Syringe during the collapse.
During the pancake, the floors acted like a plunger in a Syringe. The
towers skin and windows became the tube of the Syringe. The increased pressure blew the windows out as each massive acre of floor compressed
air between them."

So, the towers had "skins" all the way around the core and all
the way around the perimeter, eh? Were they honed with a nice cross pattern, too? This clown has a wild imagination. He's showing us
yet again that people who attempt to defend the Bush regime's
impossible magic fire theory have great difficulty with logic,
basic physics, and rational thought. His "Syringe" theory is
completely absurd for a number of very obvious reasons.

The floors are the area between the central core and the
perimeter. Are you familiar with the construction of the
towers? Here's a good top view.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/core.html

1. There were no floors in the rubble pile, as they were pulverized
into fine powder by the force of the demolition charges. If your
simplistic, impossible, and comical "pancake" theory were correct,
there would have been a stack of 4 inch thick concrete floors in
the rubble. There were none.
2. In order for the floors to act as pistons and compress air
between them, every floor truss attachment point would have had to
fail completely at the same instant - all connections to the core,
and all connections to the perimeter, all the way around the
building. The floors could not have collapsed in sections, because
that would have allowed the air to escape. "Pistons" that are broken
into pieces do not compress air very well. Obviously, there's no way
all those anchor points could fail at the same time, especially in
the south tower which took a hit on the corner. Your magic, steel
melting, steel exploding fires never even covered the entire floor.
3. Compressing air to thousands of PSI so that it could cause such
violent focused explosions out the sides of the towers would have
produced resistance and slowed the collapse. It fell at free fall
speed.
4. If a section of the building twenty stories below the collapse
zone had somehow become suddenly pressurized, it would have blown
out a the windows, not caused a violent, focused explosion of debris blowing out forty feet laterally.
5. If the floor trusses had broken loose from the core and perimeter
and slid down "like a plunger in a Syringe" the core and perimeter
would no longer have the weight of the floors to support, yet they disintegrated and fell straight down at free fall speed. That's impossible, too.

The problem with most magic fire conspiracy kooks is that they're so
desperate to find a way to "explain" how fires could have caused the
massive steel frames of the towers to explode, melt, and disintegrate
that you will embrace the first thing you hear and mindlessly parrot
it without actually thinking.

 

You seem disgusted in general. Put some blame on the guy in
your mirror rather than make up lies about your betters...
HTH


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http://www.st911.org



Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html

 

There's no if about it. It's a fact, and it proves that the
lower structures were destroyed prior to being impacted by the
upper structures. This isn't nuclear physics.
Think of a freight train coasting down a steep hill. Air resistance
isn't enough to slow it, and it picks up speed. Now think of it
impacting a parked freight train. The moving freight train will
decelerate much more rapidly as it tries to move through another
freight train than it would moving through air. Likewise, debris
falling through and destroying the massive undamaged steel frames
of the towers would be slowed far more than debris falling through
air alone.

Wrong. Fact is, you can't produce one expert who supports
the magic fire theory that has a plausible explanation for
most of the hard evidence.

http://911proof.com/10.html

That's in a vacuum. The free fall time from that height is
considerably longer through through air, and the massive
undamaged steel frames of the towers would have stopped the
collapse anyway. This has been proved with physics. Upright
steel columns like those used in the central cores can't fall
through themselves at any speed.

What part are you unable to grasp? Do you know what pile
driving is?

You don't need to as it's totally irrelevant and meaningless.

Wow. Why don't you get informed before posting such complete
nonsense? Without exception, =everyone= who attempts to defend
the Bush regime's impossible magic fire/super Arab conspiracy
theory displays a lot of ignorance on just about every aspect
of the subject.
In reality, the cores were a series of massive interconnected
steel box columns, and they were the main load bearing structure
of the towers. Near the base they had four inch thick walls. They
alone could easily support several times the weight of the towers.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/core.html

Wrong again.
You can easily see the perimeter columns violently exploding out of
the tower in this photo. The clearly visible spandrel plates are still
attached.

http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/gallery/04-wtc-Biggart5-24.jpg

They are made of high strength, heat resistant steel, certified
to hold their strength for several hours at 2000 degrees F. Live loads
can be increased 2000% before failure. Here are photos of the perimeter
columns and spandrel plates during construction.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/perimeter.html

I've provided proof, and you've seen it. You can also google it
yourself. But you're in denial, hence the title of this thread.


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http://911research.wtc7.net

Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html

 

Yup. And absolutly nobody with expertise in construction or
demolition agrees with the kooks that think explosives were necessary
when a jumbo jet hit each tower.

After 5 years of showing the same videos over and over, the "Truth
Movement" has not discovered one single tidbit of information in those
videos that any of the thousands of people in the world with expertise
slapped their heads and said "whe didn't I see that" before.

 

Your reading comprehension and thinking ability is horrible.

http://911proof.com/10.html

That's why you've you've swallowed impossible and thoroughly
debunked government lies and propaganda.
Fact is, you can't produce =one= expert who supports the
magic fire theory that has a plausible explanation for most
of the hard evidence.

http://911proof.com/10.html



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http://911research.wtc7.net


Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html

 

Exactly like this:

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc2exp2.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc1nenw.html

It's really amazing that some people can view these photos and
try to claim that it's just steel bending and buckling from
being over heated. You can see massive explosions blowing debris
upward. We expect that sort of mindless idiocy from known
psychotics like crazy Petie Roehling, but when seemingly
sane folks do it, it's really weird. Maybe you hadn't yet seen
the photos. Those are obviously not gravity driven collapses.
They are clearly very violent and powerful explosions.


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http://911research.wtc7.net


Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html

 

yawn

Hint; Prof Jones is not an expert in anything related to the
construction or demolition of structures, The "danish expert" was not
identified AFAICTW [*].

One more edit of the same videos with a new hyperbolic voice track
doesn't add change anything.

I want *ONE* factual gem discovered by the Truth Movement, picked up
by established experts in the field, at least well enough that some of
the thousands of experts discuss it in their open media as a
possibility.









* As Far A I Care To Watch.

 

I know a few pastry chefs, one of whom has declared himself to be a
danish expert. He hasn't found any evidence that the towers were
destroyed by a controlled demolition.

--
"Outback" Jon - KC2BNE

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You mean explosions that would have been heard all over Manhattan like
a bomb going off? Sonic waves that could be heard for miles BEFORE the
buildings came down?

Why wasn't that reported or heard in the video of the buildings
falling. These would have had to be MASSIVE explosions that would have
been heard for miles....and were not.

Kirb

 

What is more amazing, perhaps even shocking, is that almost all
"physicists" believe the official account for the physics of WTC 1,2
and even 7.

The "layman" can blame the "scientific establishment" for thier
ignorance. But what excuse do these "physicists", proclaimed
authorities over such issues, have?

Academia is the new clergy, Einstein-worship the new religion, delusion
the new science.

 

Yeah, they were.

Seismic shocks were recorded at 3 on
the Richter scale at *exactly* the same moment
that both WTC1 and WTC2 *started* to collapse.
NOT when they hit the ground- when they
*started* to collapse. These are hard copy.

Also.

The firefighters that came to building
one found *all* the ground floor windows
blown out. They also encountered maintenance workers
coming up from the basement in shock and
reporting massive explosions
in the basement levels.

John

 

And you're still a looney.

What's your point loon boy?

 

Well, let's take a closer look at the claims of your
magic fire conspiracy theorist. I have yet to find one
that doesn't distort, omit, or deny crucial facts and/or
evidence.

From your link:

"The structural design of the towers was unique in that the supporting
steel structure consisted of closely spaced columns in the walls of all
four sides. The resulting structure was similar to a tube. When the
aircraft impacted the towers at speeds of about 500 plus mph, many steel
columns were immediately severed and others rendered weak by the
following fires."

Wow, this guy reveals his ignorance very blatantly. Not
quite blatant enough for a typical magic fire conspiracy
theorist to see it, but very blatant to be sure.
Your reality denying hero grossly misrepresents the
structural design of the towers by denying the existence of
the central cores. The massive central cores were the main
load bearing structures and could easily support several times
the weight of a tower alone.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/core.html

He omits the central cores from his magic fire kook theory,
because his impossible theory can't explain their free fall
speed and symmetric disintegration. Demolition, of course,
explains it quite well, and is the only method that does.
None of the massive steel frame below the impact zone was
damaged or exposed to the short lived, low temperature, oxygen
stared fires near the top of the towers at any time. Steel that
is not exposed to fire is not weakened by fire. Your guy also
leaves out the fact that the perimeter columns were made from
high strength heat resistant steel.
Without exception, =everyone= who support the "official"
conspiracy theory denies, distorts, or omits key evidence,
facts, and details - no exceptions.

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060327100957690

"The Twin Towers and Why They Fell
It would help to begin with an accurate description of the WTC towers
in terms of quality of design and construction. In July of 1971, the
American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) presented a national award
judging the buildings to be "the engineering project that demonstrates
the greatest engineering skills and represents the greatest
contribution to engineering progress and mankind."3 Others noted that
"the World Trade Center towers would have an inherent capacity to
resist unforeseen calamities." This capacity stemmed from the use of
special high-strength steels. In particular, the perimeter columns
were designed with tremendous reserve strength whereby "live loads on
these columns can be increased more than 2,000% before failure occurs.

More on the incredible strength of the towers can be found here:

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/design.html

"There is evidence that the Twin Towers were designed with an even
greater measure of reserve strength than typical large buildings.
According to the calculations of engineers who worked on the Towers'
design, all the columns on one side of a Tower could be cut, as well
as the two corners and some of the columns on each adjacent side, and
the building would still be strong enough to withstand a
100-mile-per-hour wind. 3"


The clown who wrote the letter you linked to would do well to heed
his own advice, which reads as follows:

"Before one (especially students) supports such a conspiracy theory,
they should investigate all details of the theory."


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http://911research.wtc7.net

Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html

 

The core was not the primary structural element. The beams around the
periphery were.

"could easily support several times the weight of a tower alone."

Who's words are those? What does the author cite as an authority?

 

Henry wrote:

I will NEVER ever So LONG as I LIVE stop sucking off little BOYS!!!!


I promise!!!

Thank you all for such a forum!!

You are all my queer honeys!!!

***mmmmmmmm.....wahhh!!!!***



alks/wtc/videos.html

 

is a LIAR and troll. We can call Henry many thing
most are true but he is NOT what you claim...what
you are on the other hand is lower than snake shit
in a wagon rut.


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