Daz ha escrit: [QUOTE] So for the whole lot, combien?[/QUOTE] La peau des fesses, peut etre?
I *don't* assume everything is stolen or everyone is trying to give me bent cheques and so far haven't had a problem. Although, I do recall a story (apocryphal?) of the police doing a spot of scruiteneering at a race meet and found 17 of the 20 RDs on the grid to be nicked or contain stolen parts.
That's not what you said, or certainly inferred, originally and you're response is beginning to smack of wriggling.
Of course I don't think that but my point was similar to the one you agreed with up there ^^^ somewhere. Not everyone's a thief and imo the chances of being lumbered with nicked gear from a *brand new bike* is unlikely as more people nowadays build straight from the crate.
Which was an event in itself. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2 `\|/` `
I always wrote the numbers on my scrute card but they were never checked against the bike. I'm pretty sure all clubs now have a datatag scanner too but I've never seen one used, although that's not to say they don't. I'll shut up now before TOG pipes up with a "told you so". <snip>
Well, I will acknowledge your basic point, which is that the race scene is something which creates a demand for up to date parts and bikes. Some clubs insist that you put frame and engine numbers on entries now - I assume this info is passed on to the dibbles. And, of course, there are unscrupulous people in all walks of lfe. For what it's worth, I think the "loads of nicked bikes end up on the track" think is overstated. [/QUOTE] OK, I'll agree with that, and point out that that inverted commas bit is *not* what I said. This is a problem. I've never knowingly bought stolen kit of any type, and I *have* reported people who've tried to flog it to me to the police, when I've been convinced they knew it was dodgy, as opposed to people who innocently bought something hooky. I recall a magazine's project bike in the 1990s which was furnished with all sorts of goodies from a breaker, who subsequently got nicked for receiving. That was a hoot, although the sordid details didn't make it into print. I remember contemplating the bike with the then editor, and the two of us wondering just how much of it was stolen. Like sweller, I tend to assume a basic degree of honesty on the part of most sellers, but I still ain't at all sure about chunks of the racing fraternity. I don't think they've got richer overnight. Can you still get those T-shirts which say: "I race motorcycles and I'm broke to prove it"?
I was thinking more of components from nicked machines, though I'm sure (as I said later) the same also applies. Anyway, wtf. See you at EOSM for a pint.
Enjoy, everybody! I'll not be attending, but will raise a glass or three in honour, as it were. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2 `\|/` `
sweller says... MAG turned up at a couple of club meets in the early 90s and went round with scrutineers writing down frame and engine numbers, with a view to having the Police check them against stolen vehicle records. They only got part way down the line before word spread what they were doing and most of the entrant's bikes disappeared back into their vans. IIRC the ACU asked them not to turn up again because there were hardly any bikes out on track at those couple of meetings.
I remember reading that at the height of its popularity, Yamaha's RD350 was the most nicked vehicle type in Britain. No idea if it's true....