The Future of Phillip Island and the AGP

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Martin Taylor, Sep 23, 2003.

  1. Reading an interesting thread in the Ten Tenths motorsport forum.

    (http://www.ten-tenths.com)

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    It's mainly about the V8 touring cars not running at PI next year.
    However, an industry insider posted this today...

    "And just to bring this thread back on topic ( ) - 3AW in Melbourne this
    morning were running a story that Phillip Island has a contract for the
    bikes to run until 2006 (not sure if they meant until and including 2005
    or 2006) BUT the interesting part of the story was...

    "Don't expect the V8's to be the last race meeting to move off shore from
    Phillip Island...appears that the crowd at the last few bike events has
    not been what had been hoped for and it is quite possible that the GP's
    will move BEFORE their contracts are up.

    "3AW suggested a move off shore, however anothr source has suggested that
    the Vic government is already talking to another race track to take the
    events on...."

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    So, if any of this is part way true, then I'd be making the most of the
    2003 AGP, and perhaps the 2004 race. It may be the last opportunity that
    we'll have of watching Australians racing in the premier category.
     
    Martin Taylor, Sep 23, 2003
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  2. Martin Taylor

    Dane Guest

    I fail to see how moving the MotoGP offshore prevents us from watching
    Australians racing in the premier category?
     
    Dane, Sep 23, 2003
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  3. Martin Taylor

    Dale Porter Guest

    I'll give you a clue. He's not talking about watching it on the TV.

    Dale Porter
     
    Dale Porter, Sep 23, 2003
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  4. Dane said....

    Da> I fail to see how moving the MotoGP offshore prevents us from watching
    Da> Australians racing in the premier category?

    Sorry. I'll be more specific.

    It may be the last chance that we get to GO and see Australians racing
    locally in world premier class motorcycle racing.

    How's that?

    Whatever. It sounds like you're not bothered about the prospect.
     
    Martin Taylor, Sep 24, 2003
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  5. Martin Taylor

    Dane Guest


    I care.

    dane
     
    Dane, Sep 24, 2003
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  6. just because its not at the island doesnt mean there wont be an aussie GP.
    Think Albert park F1 course, or an interstate track. (which one would have
    the best run-off areas for bikes).

    For the tracks i have been to and know

    Sandown i dont think so
    Bathurst definately not
    Calder is in enough strife as it is
    Winton ... perhaps, not technical enough though
    Albert Park F1GP track, too expensive to set up
     
    Derek Pattison, Sep 24, 2003
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  7. Martin Taylor

    Knobdoodle Guest

    ~
    Eastern Creek is the only FIM homologated track (or, at least WAS) but the GP was a flop there.
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Sep 24, 2003
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  8. Surely they can 'homogolate' (is that a word?) another track given a year
    or two's notice. This is assuming there is decent enough facilities and
    safety there already.
     
    Derek Pattison, Sep 24, 2003
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  9. Martin Taylor

    paulh Guest

    fuckoff... no way...its your typical innercity tunnel racing. Bikes
    wouldnt touch that track.
    Eastern Creek? Usually Sydney Sport crowds can't fill it close to what
    PI does.
    not safe..
    its better than Albert Park tho.
    that wasnt even considered 15years ago.
    too small and dinky probably.
    not even vaguely safe enough.


    paulh
     
    paulh, Sep 24, 2003
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    You live in Darwin?

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Sep 24, 2003
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  11. Martin Taylor

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "Derek Pattison" wrote
    Only if you swap the g and the l around.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Sep 24, 2003
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  12. Martin Taylor

    Knobdoodle Guest

    ~
    Well... last time they couldn't use PI they had to build Eastern Creek so I doubt there's anything suitable
    around...
    Clem
    (PS; no it's not a word.... but homologate is.)
     
    Knobdoodle, Sep 24, 2003
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  13. Martin Taylor

    conehead Guest

    Albert Park could never be homologated for bikes, and there's no way you'd
    be able to disrupt that sink in iniquity for two-wheeled sport. They have
    enough opposition to the F1 GP.

    --
    Conehead
    "Your credibilty along with all the other people arguing in this thread has
    been totally distroyed... I am copying this thread and will send it... but
    I'll send it not to the parents, but to a couple of magazines I know..."
    kiwipete in a hissy-fit
     
    conehead, Sep 24, 2003
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  14. I doubt there's anything suitable
    It probably would be less expensive to rehomologate Eastern Creek than build
    another track if PI loses the GP, and yes I'd ride to Sydney for the GP
    again... but the atmosphere at Eastern Creek wasn't a patch on PI. The
    crowds were no bigger than PI (if anything smaller), so I'd be surprised if
    it shifted back there personally.

    I suspect the most likely option if PI loses the GP would be for oz to lose
    the round of the moto GP...


    Geoff and Jodie
     
    Geoff and Jodie, Sep 24, 2003
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  15. Martin Taylor

    Nev.. Guest

    Not to mention the slight problem of concrete walls, trees, bollards, etc.

    Nev..
    '02 CBR1100XX #2
     
    Nev.., Sep 24, 2003
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  16. It's around 2000km from Brissie to PI.
     
    Julie and Deb, Sep 24, 2003
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  17. Martin Taylor

    Dane Guest

    You're assuming I'm taking the most direct route there.

    I'm not.

    Dane
     
    Dane, Sep 24, 2003
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  18. Only good ones...
     
    Intact Kneeslider, Sep 25, 2003
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  19. Derek said....

    DP> just because its not at the island doesnt mean there wont be an aussie
    DP> GP. Think Albert park F1 course, or an interstate track. (which one
    DP> would have the best run-off areas for bikes).
    DP>
    DP> For the tracks i have been to and know
    DP>
    DP> Sandown i dont think so

    Neither does MA, is it won't grant Sandown a licence.

    DP> Bathurst definately not

    It'd be fantastic, though...

    DP> Calder is in enough strife as it is

    Hmm. Now we may be getting warm. Bracks government is supposedly in
    negotiations with someone regarding the future of the AGP.

    DP> Albert Park F1GP track, too expensive to set up

    There's also the public backlash of upsetting people's lives for two
    times a year.

    My money's on Calder, if PI is to go. And that'd be a damn tragedy.
     
    Martin Taylor, Sep 25, 2003
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  20. Feh - its over 2,300km from Sydney to Philip Island, if you go
    the right way!

    www.mightymedia.com.au/~bigiain/bug_collecting/Pages/map.html

    That was a 3,200km round trip, including going the boring way
    home up the Hume, so 800odd km home, means I rode 2,400odd km to
    get there...

    (and, as you can see, there's opportunity for more fun after
    Sale, but I bolted into Melbourne to have coffee with a friend
    instead...)

    :)

    big
     
    Iain Chalmers, Sep 25, 2003
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