The Grand UKRM Saddam-sweep

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Wicked Uncle Nigel, Dec 28, 2006.

  1. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    deadmail Guest

    I agree completely.
    How about handing him over to the Hague for a proper trial? Sure it
    would go on for years but it wouldn't have given the impetus to the
    insurgents that this may.

    30 more dead and counting.

    Unlike many of my posts, this isn't one looking for reactions. It's one
    where whilst I'm convinced that I'm right I sincerely hope I'm wrong.
     
    deadmail, Dec 30, 2006
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  2. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    platypus Guest

    Not with the balaclavas. Which is the point, I suppose.

    You could try asking darsy.
     
    platypus, Dec 30, 2006
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  3. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    deadmail Guest


    "I know people with Sanskrit"

    Yes, I know Iraq doesn't use Sanskrit but whatever their script is
    called it doesn't scan as well.
     
    deadmail, Dec 30, 2006
  4. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Hog Guest

    You snipped and avoided my point.
     
    Hog, Dec 30, 2006
  5. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Hog Guest

    From a biased media. There are plenty of supportive comments too.
    You know **** all about my politics other than I support Capital
    Punishment in certain circumstances.
     
    Hog, Dec 30, 2006
  6. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Hog Guest

    "in public"
     
    Hog, Dec 30, 2006
  7. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Hog Guest

    How is the Hague a proper trial?
    This wasn't Europe.
     
    Hog, Dec 30, 2006
  8. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Hog Guest

    or can't, stuff it in a pipe.
     
    Hog, Dec 30, 2006
  9. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    platypus Guest

    "I have mates with hemp ropes"
    Arabic.
     
    platypus, Dec 30, 2006
  10. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    deadmail Guest

    deadmail, Dec 30, 2006
  11. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Whether it was in Europe or not is totally irrelevant.

    The International Criminal Court (ICC) was established in 2002 as a
    permanent tribunal to prosecute individuals for genocide, crimes
    against humanity, war crimes, and the crime of aggression. The ICC is
    designed to complement existing national judicial systems: the Court
    can only exercise its jurisdiction when national courts are unwilling
    or unable to investigate or prosecute such crimes, thus being a "court
    of last resort". Primary responsibility to exercise jurisdiction over
    alleged criminals is therefore left to individual states. The court
    can only prosecute crimes that were committed on or after 1 July 2002,
    the date its founding treaty, the Rome Statute of the International
    Criminal Court, entered into force.

    You'll see from the above why it couldn't be used against Sadam unless
    they dropped earlier charges and found something to try him for after
    2002. The other alternative would have been to change the rules so he
    could be tried by the ICC but that wouldn't be in the best interests
    of Iraq or the so-called coalition forces because they would have
    possibly felt they couldn't withdraw from Iraq until the trial was
    over.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Dec 30, 2006
  12. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Andy Bonwick, Dec 30, 2006
  13. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Hog Guest

    Sure Saddam predates the ICC but my point was rather more no part of the
    Arab world is likely to accept the ICC. There has been some promotion of
    it from Jordan but it's a long way off. Post liberation justice is local
    business.

    The basic idea of the ICC is pretty good, just the execution that leaves
    something to be desired. It would not try and respect Shariah law in
    this respect for instance. The natives might regard that as a bit
    Colonial.
     
    Hog, Dec 30, 2006
  14. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Surely the point of invading (after claiming the oil) was to
    westernise the natives?
     
    Andy Bonwick, Dec 30, 2006
  15. Nice choice of words there... :)

    Dave
     
    WavyDavy\(Mobile\), Dec 30, 2006
  16. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Hog Guest

    HTH!
     
    Hog, Dec 30, 2006
  17. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Hog Guest

    I'd say that in hushed tones around Bagdad.

    You don't really think oil was at the root of it? well not directly. Our
    mates in Kuwait, Saudi, Jordan, UAE and Israel thought Saddam was
    becoming too much of a threat.
     
    Hog, Dec 30, 2006
  18. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    raden Guest

    In message
    No closure with that scenario
     
    raden, Dec 30, 2006
  19. "This is ukrm" :))
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 30, 2006
  20. The Older Gentleman wrote
    I think Maggie Beckett summed it up with her, "The British gummint is
    against hanging but he was tried somewhere else." Sort of said it all
    really.
     
    steve auvache, Dec 30, 2006
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