The Most Important Issue...

So the world tunes in to witness how this rich and powerful nation would
handle these issues and what the American voter would say... Some thought
that the most important issues deciding the election were terrorism, the war
in Iraq, the economy and health care... Candidates stumped the nation about
these issues for months...

But as the voters were polled exiting the voting booth many of them answered
something extraordinary... wait for it... MORALS... yes they stated that
moral values were the most important issue...

Now which party has more moral fiber is prime for a heated debate I'm
sure... but I think we should take a measure of comfort first... for it
seems Americans are interested not only in sex... money... guns... but
goodness and fairness as well...

Larry L
94 RC45 #2
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/
http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2

 

None of the above should be taken to mean we're NOT interested in sex,
money, sex, guns, sex and... sex...

 

But the "Moral" issues are all ABOUT sex, money, violence, and God.

Sex: Homosexuals make Baby Jesus Cry, and as a result, they should be
shot.

Money: That darned separation clause, we have to do sometihng about
that with government funding.

Violence: Before birth, you have a 100% right to life. After birth,
bring on ol Sparky.

God: Karl Rove's pandering to The Base, portraying the GOP as the
Party of God, not realizing that it sounds so much better in Arabic.

 

Wow, Nick, what an amazingly concise and accurate portrayal of the Republican
Party's platform. With insightful understanding like yours, and the obvious
concomitant desire for moderation and compromise that stands unspoken behind it,
it should be no time at all before the divisive scars from the 2004 campaign
heal and all parties find themselves working side by side for the common good.
I salute you, my fellow American!

 

Does this mean that the VMAX is an acceptable V4 Larry?

 

Any assclown that sets their moral compass by that shower (and I refer
to both sides of the shower) deserves all the ridicule they get.

 

I'll never forget my ride on a Vmax back in 84... that V4 launched me like a
giant bungee cord stretched clear across the country... I was impressed...
still to this day... so yes Yamaha's Vmax is an acceptable V4...

Larry L
94 RC45 #2
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/
http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2

 

Bush surely won on that platform.

Did you read what his brother Jeb said about truth being
worthless? Now that was not what one would be calling
goodness.... the lying about Iraqs WMD etc was not all that
impressive either.. I think the Bushes put on more of pious
show than actually live by high stardards.


What Bush is actually *doing seems not to fully fit the
platform in many regards, the Haliburton frauds a prime
example. And he as tried to force arrest without warrants or
court hearings on the people etc.. much of the Homeland
Security crap has been found unconstitutional.

We still need to address WHYthe Bin Ladens, a few hundred of
them were flown out of the US under US military escort without
questioning hours after the attack at the WTC.. whats up
with *that do you suppose Larry?



Aside from this 25% approx of the registered republicans
think he is an idiot... 80% of the democrats think he's an
idiot...

however 50% of our population has an IQ under 100... so he
gets perhaps most of that vote. The man is recommending we
offshore more jobs.. sorry that is decimating the federal and
state tax bases.

Not smart Larry. Neither was taunting the enemy...thats
never smart. Now was the hose jobs the CIA did on the
prisoners... that created a few more billion enemies of
otherwise neutral muslims.

Phil Scott

 

None of those assholes, Democrat or Republican, has any fucking morals. It's
all about money, isn't it?

How moral is it to maim and kill thousands of innocent women and children?
As a country, a CHRISTIAN country, we do it every day. John Keerry would
have done the same thing. In fact the citizens of the United Stares would
have INSISTED on it. Moral's, what a bunch of bullshit.

What about Bush's morals? Cheney's moral's? Rumsfelds morals? Ashcrofts
morals?

Bullshit.

The issue should be truthfulness and honesty. not some Christian hoo doo.

That is all

Thumper

 

The most important issue I ever face is what bike I'm riding today and, is
it raining.
Oh, and will the Velocette ever charge.

Of course with the upward spiral of GW Gas. I may be worring about that in
the near future.

Thumper.

 

Yes, that is a common complain against many politicians, and a complaint that
many people make about anyone they don't care for.

And much of it has protected the country. Perhaps you've not read of the Gitmo
prisoners that have been released, only to immediately return to bearing arms in
terrorist attacks?

Well, that's jut a lying lie. A total fabrication, a falsehood. You spouting
that PROVES that you are no better than that which you accuse the Administration
of. The 9/11 report CLEARLY put that lie to rest. NO Saudi nationals were
flown out of the U.S. without questioning, you conspiracy nutcase spewing LOON!

Hopefully the 20% of Democrats who aren't morons will be running the show next
time, or your political fortunes will inevitably continue to decline. Talk
about being doomed to repeat your own mistakes!

It appears that about 48% of the voting population has an IQ under 100... they
voted for a big fat loser. Maybe they were just blinded by the superior
intellect of Michael Moore!

Neither Bush nor Kerry have policies or powers that will prevent the offshoring
of American jobs in a truly global, free trade economy. Unless you want to
withdraw from the world economic community and lapse into protectionism, you'd
better come up with a criticism better than that.

How many more billions of enemy muslims do you think there can possibly be?

Sheesh. And you have the gall to criticize the intelligence of other
Americans. You could learn a bit by just s(ing)tfu and listening to Larry.

 

but I think we should take a measure of comfort first... for it

What is "moral" about lying in order to make war and consequently erase over
100,000 living persons from the earth? What does " Thou shalt not bear false
witness against they neighbor" mean? Or "Thou shalt no kill"?
Strange way of following the Lord's commands, isn't it?
Not exactly Love they neighbor as thyself is it?
Let's hear for the American Taliban !!

 

Not THOSE morals. THOSE don't count. It's Gay Marriage.
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SNIP

BOY are you a dumb ****...it says "Thou shalt not commit
MURDER" do learn the difference. Not that I expect a person
who probablly thinks leviticus is meant for everybody. (it
isn't just the priest who kept the temple) Only thing you
christians need to worry about is the 10 basic rules...leave
thinking and ethics to those of us who are capable of
critical thinking. We'll tell you how to live...oh wait we
already do.

That is not one of JVHW commandments...it's a suggestion by
his snot nosed kid.

Yeah he's doing time but may get off on a technicality. Kid
has a good lawyer...damn sport riders. No brains at all, no
endurance and can't last for the whole ride. Thank GHU I
never bought into that foolishness.

--
How not to be eaten by a duck
Avoid smearing yourself in stale breadcrumbs unless
absolutely necessary.
If threatened by a duck, climb a tree. Ducks, usually
excellent climbers, refuse to share trees with anything
else.
Carry a large automatic weapon with you whenever walking
past a river or pond.
Become a microbiologist and develop a duck form of
myxamatosis.
Become an electronics whizz and build a battery-powered
thingy that repels ducks by means of ultrasound.
Become a physicist and repel ducks. And everything else.
Carry a tin whistle in your shirt pocket or handbag and
practice duck-charming techniques to buy time to escape,
should you be threatened.
Move to Siberia. As far as I know, no ducks live near there.
If you can't beat them, join them: Whilst ducks may be
vicious, they are civilized creatures and the idea of
cannibalism disgusts them. Rather than just getting another
pullover from your granny next Christmas, ask her for a duck
costume instead.
Do everything in your car.
Go on a safari holiday to Africa, go to see the lions and
jump out of the Land Rover into the middle of a hungry
pride. I'd like to see a duck try to reach you then.
Contract Anorexia Nervosa and wear tight clothing to make
sure the ducks realize they'd be wasting their time eating
you.
Sneak onto the set of a film about the middle ages and steal
some chain mail.
Ask God to reconsider whether they were worth putting on the
planet in the first place. Be polite.
Make friends with lots of plump, tasty-looking people. Hang
about with them all the time, after making sure you can run
faster than all of them.
Do not mistake ducks for geese. Geese will allow themselves
to be petted and stroked and even hand-fed whilst ducks will
take your arm off at the first available opportunity.
Do not accept any offers from shifty-looking blokes in cars
who enquire as to whether you would like to come with him to
see some baby ducklings.
Learn Judo or Karate. Practice sparring only with very short
people.
Buy a few readily-killed ducks from Tesco and string the
beaks around your neck along with a few bones and a feather
headdress. Walk around half-naked covered in warpaint with a
large knife and a collection of fearsome facial expressions.
They ought to get the idea then.
Live solely on garlic, onions, leeks, kebabs, truffles,
beetroot and Ferrero Rocher. Never brush your teeth, breathe
through your mouth and you should be safe provided you never
holiday in France.
Carry several different types of underarm deodorant with you
throughout the day. Keep changing your smell so that ducks
cannot follow your scent and track you to your home.
Never write any novels denouncing duck deities. If you do,
apologize and go into hiding.
Constantly chew at least ten sticks of gum simultaneously.
Keep dropping lumps so that any inquisitive ducks will have
their beaks glued shut.
Marinade yourself in white wine, strip naked and drape
yourself invitingly on a large plate. The ducks may think it
a little too good to be

 

Ouch. That's gotta hurt. Oh and eleven. Back to the drawing board!

 

Abuse Mr Morrow is a poor arguement. It is an attempt to
silence...You can do better. You could also do better on your
research. The flying of the bin ladens out of the country
after 911 is broadly documented. The fact of the Bin Ladin
familiy supporting the Bushes for decades is also a matter of
public record...and so is all that lying we see from the Bush
faimily.

Not impressive. and its not a viable foundation for the
nation.
The exerpt below is a report on Jeb Bush...his father is long
on record with similar remarks.

Not a good than Mr Morrow. But regardless your view or
mine...in end. corruption *always takes down its host and
those connected to it... it will be those words that ring in
your ears as times goes on... and we will see where all of
this crap has lead us.

Now a few words for our pal Jeb.

Jeb once told retired Naval Intelligence Officer Al Martin
(cited in
Bushwhacked, Sept. 2002, by Uri Dowbenko)...

"The truth is useless. You have to understand this right now.
You can't
deposit the truth in a bank. You can't buy groceries with the
truth. You
can't pay rent with the truth. The truth is a useless
commodity that will
hang around your neck like an albatross -- all the way to the
homeless
shelter. And if you think that the million or so people in
this country
that are really interested in the truth about their government
can support
people who would tell them the truth, you got another think
coming. Because
the million or so people in this country that are truly
interested in the
truth don't have any money."

*****

Impressive hu? Did he really say this? Well he hasnt sued
for libel...and he is on record as a lying sack of shit in
other area... my guess is that he actually is.

Sorry.
But he is correct. People that tell the truth are a distinct
minority and they dont end up with all the money and power
either. So in that aspect.. the money and power aspect the
Bushes do well. Unfortunately they have not heeded the good
book they report to follow on that range of issues.

Its not of course possible that the Bushies are just
another batch of frauds like those Tee Vee ministers? Nah.

Look...so we killed a hundred thousand Iraqi women, children
and cab drivers to get rid of a man we ourselves armed with
poison gas. That can't be that imoral can it?

Mr Morrow, lets see if you can respond with a cogent reply
without adomominem.


Phil Scott





Phil Scott

listening to Larry.

 

Then you should stop using it and respond to the facts. You do realize that
your 100k number was EXTRAPOLATED from limited interviews in severely
circumscribed areas of the country and is in SHARP disagreement with every other
estimate of Iraqi casualties, including that of respected international Human
Rights organizations, don't you? Yes, you do, but you use the number anyway.
You have no respect for the truth, while calling out others for allegedly lying.

As to your continued lying and fabrications (with ZERO supporting evidence or
documentation) regarding "flying Bin Laden family members out of the U.S.": see
pages 329 and 330 of the 9/11 Commission's report. In brief "we found no
evidence that any flights of any Saudi nationals, domestic or international,
took place before the reopening of national airspace on the morning of September
13, 2001" and "the FBI conducted a satisfactory screening of the Saudi nationals
who left the U.S. on chartered flights" and "FBI interviewed all persons of
interest" and "Our own independent review ... confirms that no one with known
links to terrorism departed on these flights."

Like all the other internet kook konspiracy theorists, you play fast and loose
with invented stories and attempt to silence the truth with ad hominem attacks.

You should try researching and learning a little about the actual facts at hand
before going off on another of your screeds.

In the meantime, I shall relegate you to the loony bin with the rest of the
netkooks.

BTW, citing a leftist kook like Molly Ivins (auther of "Bushwhacked") as proof
of your assertions is *NOT* impressive. Kind of like quoting Pat Buchanan as an
authority on Zionism.

Tim

 

Larry, you're a moron plain and simpleton. You've been yammering about
politics for months with all the chuckleheads and now it's Nov 3 and
you're *still* yammering. You must be retarded by now from all those
acetone fumes you've huffed trying to clean and reuse your $60 clutch
plates. Why don't you go out and buy some new ones to stimulate this
Bush economy?

Your analyses are tiresome, vacuuous and uninspired. Is that
redundant? Good, because redundancy can only begin to capture the sort
of immediate desire for immolation that overtakes any reader of your
claptrap. Just because you've been convinced by the endless stream of
pundits and jerkoffs that your opinion counts does not in fact mean
every time you feel the urge to open your mouth we all need to suffer
and listen to yet another political post. And to top it all off you
seem to think that AMS (to say nothing of the BA weenies with their
panties torqued to "stun") wants to read this shit. Does every OT post
of your have to go three ways?

Speaking of three ways, your incompetence at this chosen pursuit
reminds me of those pasty-faced lardasses that line up every time some
sleazeball producer makes another gangbang video. Your impotent pecker
barely peeking past that beerbelly and equally barely making coitus
with the porn star. It's over in five seconds as you whimper like a
puppy whilst a laughable amount of manseed dribbles out. As the world
suddenly finds a newfound respect (and desire) for the professionals.

If this were you as a machinist your creations would be so misshapen
and poorly turned that they'd vibrate to pieces in any reciprocating
assembly and take an eye out.

Please. You embarassed our fine nation enough with the white socks and
sandals over en Italia. Stop making us look like fools on usenet too!
I implore you for now, but will rally my Congressman to include you in
the Axis of Evil[tm] if you persist.


I am Demetrius and this is my most important issue.

 

Impressive ...you believe the same US intelligence that
lied to us about the WMD, and held prisioners at Guantamamo
for years... as they let bin ladens family members go in
hours? Hundreds of them? By your own references.

Now son......... thats a bit dense dont you think?

Of course not...you dont think...you believe what your read
from our certifiably lying US intelligence agencies.

Impressive

ad hominem attacks.

Sorry that was your spin and your trash job... and
yourself who used a US intelligence report to support your
untennable position... these were *relatives and dear friends
of Osama Bin Laden who were let loose with less than a day to
interrogate hundreds of them.

Amazing...but thanks for posting your evidence.

and Yes on the 100,000 Iraqi's dead in Iraq that IS a guess..
there is not way to get an accurate count. Estimates by EU
observers have ranged between 50 and 150 thousand.. 100
thousand is in the ball park. 50 thousand would have been
way to many. and its not over by a long shot.

Guerilla's cannot be defeated in their homeland...never have
been... and never will be.. they eat the invaders substance
from the inside out..as the invader continues to alienate the
people... thats very basic warfare principle. Apparently
we did not learn our lesson in Viet Nam even as we fled from
the roof tops in helecopters under machine gun fire...we have
not learned.

So where will you be as this mess in Iraq costs us more
hundreds of billions and crosses the trillion dollar threshold
with no end in sight except possibly a puppet govt and those
in oposition slipping dirty bombs and biologicals into our
cities?

Were will you be? Here posting that you were sorry for being
such an idiot? Na...you will just be slinked off. I will
be here though. Telling you that its not smart to do what our
CIA has done for decades and now attacking these nations
overtly...not smart...and the retribtion deadly because WE are
indefensible as a nation against debiliting terrorist attacks
on our infrastructure and economy.

A new kind of war... our enemy does not need to spend a lot
of money... a hundred men can pull it off...and have. Fewer
can do devastating attacks on our infrastructure killing the
economy...unless you think we will be rocking on without a
power grid in tact.

We wont.

We have been idiots friend. Not just faintly but imbeciles to
the core...and we will pay dearly for that... thats just how
it is ...sorry. Its like watching some 5 year old bully
heading off to play in the freeway and bluffing the cars as
they wiz by...its not rocket science predicting how that will
end.

But you cant tell him anything of course... not only is an
arrogant bully, he is an idiot...

You can choose to better however.
Yes you can spin a 100,000 dead figure but you cant come up
with a rational number thats much different...can you? Nahhh.
We bombed the shit out of those people on live TV ... before
that we embargoed them and children died of malnutrion by the
hundreds of thousands (the international red cross who was on
the scene estimated 1 million..again, an estimate...but it was
a huge number...and you try to spin it to what? zero.

thats bogus argument son. And those who read this can see
it.

Thats a situation when one is unable to cite 9000 different
sources in a post, any single source can be ridiculed. I
appeal to the readers common sense.

We killed a LOT of kiddies in Iraq.

Sorry.. but thats entirely obvious..during the war, and now
today, and prior with the embargo.

YOU get to believe and do as you wish...it will by youself
that reaps the reward of your brilliance or error... I will
reap the results of mine...and I have not been flawless
either.

So what you and I say is irrelevant...utterly
irrelevant...either of us can spin and lie and twist... or
whatever.... the facts remain..and the facts are ugly and
those who
forward those agenda's will suffer for them at thier own
hand...and at the hands of those they oppressed...no matter
how well justified.





Phil Scott

 

a month or so back, dialing around a AM band on the road somewhere, I
heard someone, possibly Michael Savage or someone of his ilk, say "In the
heartland, only three things really matter.. God, Guns, and Gays". How
prophetic?