[QUOTE] Precious? Nope. Just can't put up with people deriving their enjoyment from waiting for others to 'give up'[/QUOTE] It probably can't seem very funny from where you are, but it's surely right in the banterous, joshing and occasionally repugnant spirit of ukrm. Callous commentaries on misfortunes, crashes, death and near-death, such as SteveH's latest brush, are not meant seriously. I'm sure that nobody here gets any pleasure from the prospect of your not reaching your goal. I'm in awe of the whole enterprise. I lack the technical skill, as well as the time and fortitude, to do it. I fervently want you all to succeed, and I expect Krusty (and every single one of 'us') feels the same. Good luck.