The Older Clown

Whilst cowering behind his killfile, the older clown timidly chirped:

The older clown appears to be a liar as well as a self
loathing imbecile with little self respect, credibility,
or integrity. He also lacks the intelligence to address
the facts or coherently defend his views.
One is tempted to wonder if the older clown's "mind" is
so far gone that he actually "thinks" his pitiful and
childlike behavior is admirable... <chuckle>

Look at the height of WTC7:

http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/9-11 Picture1.jpg

Then look at how it collapsed:

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html

Small random fires can't possibly make a steel framed building
do that. Not even a raging inferno can cause a steel building to
do anything even remotely close to that. Only a very well executed
controlled demolition can cause the total, instant, and symmetric
failure of all steel support columns that took place in WTC7.
That was very solidly braced and virtually undamaged steel frame.
It was dramatically over engineered to withstand hurricane force
winds and mild earth quakes. Look at the still photos at 1 second
intervals. The building stays perfectly straight and level all the
way down. Every one of the 58 steel perimeter columns failed at
exactly the same time, and they all failed totally, putting up
essentially zero resistance. That's proved by the collapse time of
6.6 seconds compared to 6 seconds free fall. The southwest corner
of WTC7 was damaged by debris from the north tower, and there were
small random fires in the building, although it's anyone's guess how
they were ignited. But asymmetric damage and random fires don't cause
steel framed buildings to collapse even slowly and asymmetrically.
More expert analysis on the demolition of WTC7 can be found here:

http://11syyskuu.blogspot.com/2006/02/destruction-of-wtc-7.html

This is what happens to steel framed buildings exposed to raging
infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

As you can see, these steel framed structures suffered gradual
deformation, but nothing even remotely close to a total symmetric
and free fall speed collapse - and those fires were far hotter
and of much longer duration than the small, isolated fires in
WTC7.


Twin Towers:
The massive reserve strength designed into the steel frames of
the towers could not possibly have been overcome by the force
of gravity alone. The fact that it was exceeded to such an
extreme degree that the undamaged steel frame offered no
measurable resistance, proves conclusively that the lower
structures were destroyed before being impacted by the upper
structures.

From:
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060327100957690

"The Twin Towers and Why They Fell
It would help to begin with an accurate description of the WTC towers
in terms of quality of design and construction. In July of 1971, the
American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) presented a national award
judging the buildings to be "the engineering project that demonstrates
the greatest engineering skills and represents the greatest
contribution to engineering progress and mankind."3 Others noted that
"the World Trade Center towers would have an inherent capacity to
resist unforeseen calamities." This capacity stemmed from the use of
special high-strength steels. In particular, the perimeter columns
were designed with tremendous reserve strength whereby "live loads on
these columns can be increased more than 2,000% before failure occurs.

More on the incredible strength of the towers can be found here:

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/design.html

"There is evidence that the Twin Towers were designed with an even
greater measure of reserve strength than typical large buildings.
According to the calculations of engineers who worked on the Towers'
design, all the columns on one side of a Tower could be cut, as well
as the two corners and some of the columns on each adjacent side, and
the building would still be strong enough to withstand a
100-mile-per-hour wind. 3"

The massive steel frames of the towers were far too strong to
collapse only under their own weight. That's been proved through
physics, and that's why no other steel framed buildings have ever
collapsed that way unless they were demolished. See Gordon Ross'
excellent paper on momentum transfer on this page:

http://worldtradecentertruth.com/

As common sense would dictate, even if all the perimeter and
core columns near the top of the tower were somehow destroyed
simultaneously so that the top 20 stories or so dropped onto the
remaining undamaged frame, after some bending and compression,
the collapse would have stopped, or the upper block would have
fallen off to the side. Gordon Ross proves that with physics.

The official conspiracy requires us to believe that falling
directly =through= the massive undamaged steel frames, including
the 47 interconnected central core columns:

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/core.html

provided little more resistance than air. This is proved by
the fact that debris falling outside the towers hit the ground
about the same time as the debris falling through the towers.
Making the government's conspiracy theory even more implausible,
is the fact that the steel at the top of the towers was over
ten times lighter and thinner than the undamaged steel in the
lower section. Look at the massive core column cross section in
the bottom photo.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/core.html

The official conspiracy theory says that crushing 47 of those
columns, all interconnected with even more steel, =and= destroying
all the perimeter columns, =and= "pancaking" all the floors, and
stairways, produced about the same kinetic friction as falling
though air. That, of course, is not physically possible.

Observe the rotating and disintegrating block on the South
Tower.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc2exp4.html

Notice that the corners are curved, as the block's internal
destruction is already taking place. If it had not been destroyed
through demolition, it would have continued to rotate and fall off
the building as an intact block. Also, notice that the block is
tilting towards the corner where it was impacted. The opposite
corner was undamaged by impact or fire, as proved by photo
evidence.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc2exp1.html

As the top section of that tower is rotating, the high strength,
fire resistant perimeter columns on one side of the building are
being compressed, and on the opposite side, where the building
was not damaged by fire or impact, the weight above them is greatly
reduced.
Why do you think the undamaged steel perimeter frame with reduced
weight above it is exploding and collapsing at the same rate as
the fire and impact damaged side that has most of the weight of the
rotating block on it? Seems more than a little odd, doesn't it? Here's
some information on the perimeter columns.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/perimeter.html

Now watch the video titled, "Close-up of South Tower collapse"
on this page:

http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/collapse update/#videos

That's not gradual bending and buckling of an over heated steel
frame. Those are huge explosions not unlike those we see in a
controlled demolition. Keep in mind that this is at the onset of
the collapse, so nothing is falling quickly at this point.

More good information on 9-11 can be found here:

http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html


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http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org



Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm


Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21

"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...

 

Bwahahahaha "small random". Be nice to roast your pig ass over something
that small

You have a career in aerospace construction if you have made a steel that
doesn't loose its strength a 2000degC. Of course the only career you
*really* have is cleaning my shit out from under the bowl

*plonk*

 

WTf are you on about?

Indeed, WTF are you on?

 

I see it did roast a hog's ass, but softening steel requires
considerably more heat than roasting a hog. Do hogs "think"
this is a raging, steel frame disintegrating inferno? <chuckle>

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc7.html

One thing we can always count on, is the laughable inability
of magic fire/Super Arab cartoon conspiracy kooks to produce
a rational defense of their comical and physically impossible
cartoon fairy tale. <chuckle>


http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Journal_2_Evidence_for_demolition_20.pdf

The secrecy surrounding the events after 9/11 prevents public
investigation through normal channels. It is still possible
however to examine the surviving available evidence to see what
can be deduced. If it can be readily deduced that explosives
brought down the buildings then the official explanation for the
collapse, which avoids consideration of explosives, must be
reevaluated in an attempt to discover its purpose. What surviving
evidence is there and what can be deduced from it? In my view the
deductions based on videos may be regarded as virtually irrefutable.
Deductions based on photographs and statements by observers may be
weighed by considering the possibility of forgery and the
variability of witness reports.

Observations and deductions from videos

1. WTC 7 collapsed straight down. This requires that, at the moment
of collapse, if caused by fires weakening the supports, not only did
the north and south pair of walls have to be of equal strength, but
also the east and west pair. Without such symmetry this tall
building would inevitably have toppled over. Even if the fires had been
intense and widespread this dual symmetry would have only a very low
probability of existence. Given the uneven distribution of the small
fires at the time of collapse the probability of the required symmetry
vanishes, hence fires did not cause the collapse.
2. The acceleration downwards of WTC 7 was 30 feet per second per
second. This is so close to the free fall acceleration of 32.2 feet
per second per second in a vacuum that virtually no resistance
throughout the fall can have existed. Also the acceleration of WTC
was constant right from the start. Steel softens slowly as it is heated
and, when just failing, still provides substantial resistance. There
was however no sign of the steel giving way gradually as its
temperature rose. These two observations, taken together, imply that
the support structures were instantly and completely severed.
3. A stream of molten metal, yellow-hot and flashing white-hot, was
observed running from WTC 2 near the plane impact region. Shortly after
this the building collapsed. When metal is white hot it is at a
temperature of at least 1200o C, and when yellow it is at about
1000o C, far hotter than possible from the burning of aircraft fuel
or office materials. The use of an oxidizing chemical reaction, such as
occurs with thermite, or something similar, is implied. The thermite
reaction achieves a temperature well in excess of 2000o C, and
produces molten iron as a by-product, melting point 1540o C. It is
used to cut steel, melting point about 1500o C.
4. During the collapse of WTC 1 and WTC 2 vast clouds of dense dust and
portions of the steel columns were violently thrown out.5 The dust came
mainly from the pulverization of the concrete that was in the floors.
The dust cloud and steel were evident early in the collapse, before the
parts had picked up much speed, so cannot have come from component
impacts. For the pulverization of the concrete, and also to rapidly
expand the dust cloud against the pressure of the atmosphere, a very
substantial additional source of energy is required. The theory that
this energy could have come from the potential energy in the building
is clearly untenable as virtually all of the potential energy had to be
consumed in providing the kinetic energy for the high downward
acceleration, so close to free fall.9
5. Computer simulations by Lu and Jiang show that, for WTC 1 and WTC 2,
collapse in the fire damaged region would have been impossible at the
known temperature of the steel supports.
6. Calculations by Gordon Ross show that, if a floor near the plane
impact site instantly and totally disintegrated, the energy available
from the falling of the top portion would not be sufficient to provide
the energy needed to sustain the collapse through the undamaged
lower portion. Thus, in the absence of explosives, the top would have
decelerated and come to rest.

Deductions from observer statements and photographs
1. Weeks after 9/11 workers were still unearthing extremely hot
material. A photograph shows solid yellow-hot metal clamped in
the jaws of an excavator. The color shows this to be at least
1000o C. This cannot be aluminium, which melts at 660o C, and
therefore must be iron or steel. It is impossible for a fire without
a dense supply of fuel and forced draft to achieve such high
temperatures, hence another energy source must have been involved.
2. Molten metal was observed in the basement of all three buildings
and the high temperatures were confirmed by aerial infra-red imaging.
This observation can be readily explained by the use of thermite which
contains a chemical oxidant, so does not depend on an air supply. The
by-product of its reaction is molten iron. This would explain not only
the high temperatures achieved in a confined space but also the
presence of liquid metal, as described more fully in point 3 of the
list above.
3. Numerous eye witnesses reported hearing and feeling explosions. Some
were injured and some reported being blown off their feet.
4. A photograph of WTC 2 shortly after the collapse commenced shows the
falling top block distorting, though it was straight just before the
fall commenced. As there can be no force acting on the block during
free fall, this could not have occurred unless the block had already
lost its support structure.



--

http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org



Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm


Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21

"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...