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Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by dodger, Dec 29, 2010.

  1. dodger

    Jeff R. Guest

    But, to all intensive porpoises, we knew what he meant.
     
    Jeff R., Dec 31, 2010
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    Diogenes Guest

    Delete "intensive porpoises", and insert "intents and purposes".

    DON'T MESS WITH A PEDANT !!!
     
    Diogenes, Dec 31, 2010
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  3. dodger

    Jeff R. Guest

    One exclamation point is usually considered sufficient.
    Three are somewhat redundant, don't you think?
     
    Jeff R., Dec 31, 2010
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    TimC Guest

    Peacefully and dirt bike riders?

    Peacefully and 4WDers?

    In the same sentences?

    Sound like they're their own worse enemies.
     
    TimC, Dec 31, 2010
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    Lindsay Guest

    Spot on. The Mitchell River National Park was created by the
    Greens pressuring Bracks into NOT building the Mitchel River
    Dam, thus us Vics will pay $5.7 billion for a desal plant, and
    $750 million a year for the next 30 years to run/maintain it, meanwhile
    the Mitchell river pumps 950 Gigalitres a year into Bass Strait.
    And floods Bairnsdale and surrounds every second year...

    And then there was the cattle getting kicked out of the Alpine
    National Park.. The Greens made Bracks do that too...
     
    Lindsay, Dec 31, 2010
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  6. dodger

    Lindsay Guest

    A bit late for that, I feel. Bairnsdale is quite a sizeable city
    http://www.gippslandtourism.com.au/bairnsdale/

    Build a dam, save Bairnsdale and surrounds from floods, water can be pumped
    to the Thomson dam and thus drought proofs melbourne. But no, the Greens
    squeal about the animals habitat. That would be the habitat floating around
    the Barracouta oil rig in Bass strait...
     
    Lindsay, Dec 31, 2010
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    John_H Guest

    According to google the Shooters and Fishers currently hold two seats
    in the NSW upper house (same as the Greens).

    I recall John Tingle (Shooters Party) as an effective politician, and
    voice of reason, who retired at the previous election IIRC. David
    Leyonhjelm was a significant force behind his original election (hence
    my previous comment).

    So what's gone wrong... have the forces of evil infiltrated the
    Shooters and Fishers?
     
    John_H, Dec 31, 2010
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    G-S Guest

    I was more talking about federal elections.
    They are one of the more effective minor parties from what I can tell.
    Wrong with them? No... the problem is the voting system we have and how
    votes are counted.

    G-S
     
    G-S, Dec 31, 2010
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    Lindsay Guest

    And the easiest and most sensible solution to fix the problem is a dam.
     
    Lindsay, Dec 31, 2010
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  10. The problem is not the river or the apparent lack of a dam
    The problem is the people who move there
    The Mitchell River has been there for a long time and a dam is not going to
    fix any seasonal flooding.
    I am sure that when the area was first settled, they chose a site where it
    wouldn't flood, but then, more people came into the town and wanted some of
    the scenic area in their backyard, without first asking the locals, if it
    flooded at any time
     
    George W Frost, Dec 31, 2010
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    Lindsay Guest

    Yep, and 4.6 billion dollars cheaper than a desal plant.
    I just had a 750kilolitre dam dug last week. It was easy.
    Which is what they have to do through lack of a dam...
    Moving the city of Bairnsdale will be more costly than the desal plant.
    A dam on the mitchell solves several problems. Easy.
     
    Lindsay, Jan 1, 2011
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  12. WITH flood gates.
    In these parts we're finding out that a dam without 'em that's already
    fullish when the wet starts is nothing but a disaster in waiting.
    Hmmm - irrigation for fucken_swamp_crop_cotton. I'm stunned the idiots
    aren't trying to grow rice in CQ. Maybe they are?
    --
    Your childish, witless, stupid and repetitive.
    There arent one post on this whole forum that looks like it came from
    anyone who has more IQ points than there teeth.

    A demented Peter Lucas Impersonator - November 2010 .
     
    Toby Ponsenby, Jan 1, 2011
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  13. Yeah - if they can afford high ground.
    maybe the ditch approach is the go - if these people 'must' want to live on
    a flood plain and do so in slab houses that can act as rafts when things
    get nasty. BTW we're almost there with the styrene slab trick - almost at
    marina finger construction level.
    --
    Your childish, witless, stupid and repetitive.
    There arent one post on this whole forum that looks like it came from
    anyone who has more IQ points than there teeth.

    A demented Peter Lucas Impersonator - November 2010 .
     
    Toby Ponsenby, Jan 1, 2011
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  14. dodger

    Lindsay Guest

    Well, the people arent moving away...
    Of course it will. Why wouldnt it?
    Agreed, but....

    The last decent flood, in 2007 from memory, flooded the WHOLE of Bairnsdale,
    Lakes Enterance, Sale, and surrounds
    http://www.gippsrecovery.com/history.html

    Going by this chart, the Mitchell has had 1 x "one in 30 year" flood, 1 x
    "one
    in 40 year flood" and 2 x "one in 80 year flood", all in 18 years! I
    remember cleaning up after the
    1990 flood...

    $100's of millions of dollars spent on repairs afterwards... All could be
    avoided...
     
    Lindsay, Jan 1, 2011
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  15. Yeah - if they can afford high ground.
    Maybe the Dutch approach is the go - if these people 'must' live on
    a flood plain and do so in slab houses, they can do so in ones that can act
    as rafts when things get nasty. BTW we're almost there with the styrene
    slab trick - which are almost at marina finger construction level.
    --
    Your childish, witless, stupid and repetitive.
    There arent one post on this whole forum that looks like it came from
    anyone who has more IQ points than there teeth.

    A demented Peter Lucas Impersonator - November 2010 .
     
    Toby Ponsenby, Jan 1, 2011
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  16. dodger

    Lindsay Guest

    Major flood level @ Bairnsdale Pumphouse sits at 8 metres. last flood 2
    months ago got to 7.98 metres
    I dont think so. All the houses, the refinery, no-ones gunna move away from
    their work, their livelihood, and there's no need to, if the dam were built.
    The dam on the Mitchell River is one solution to solve Melbournes water
    storage crisis. It was costed at $1.3 billion. It would also supplament Blue
    Rock dam, thus ensuring enough water for the power stations as well..

    A desal costing $5.7 Billion, and $750 million per for the next 30 years,
    and consuming 70 megawatts of brown-coal fired electricity (which the
    greenies say is one of the root causes of climate change/global
    warming/whatever name it is this week) is just a tad more expensive.

    Now, to me, even a moron can see why i'm "rabbiting on about the desal
    plant, as if its the only alternative." coz to me, it's a huge fucking waste
    of $20 billion whilst the Mitchell dumps 900,000 megalitres of water (nearly
    the equivalent of a full thomson dam) into Bass Strait every year (not
    including the floodwaters), and flooding Bairnsdale every other year in the
    process. I haven't seen any other sensible and affordable alternatives put
    forward, only opposition to mine.
    It's just about, oh, $18 BILLION dollars cheaper... and saves Bairnsdale
    (and low lieing areas around) from flood. A desal plant cant do that...
    Cost.
     
    Lindsay, Jan 1, 2011
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  17. In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 02 Jan 2011 00:47:48 +1100
    Because it was cheaper than the higher ground and they made a bet that
    they wouldn't get flooded.

    Or they were too stupid or blinded by the price to check.

    My grandfather was quite isistent that any land bought had to be above
    flood level and that the buyer should make independent checks because
    real estate agents lie.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jan 1, 2011
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    Feral Guest

    And he was right.

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    Feral, Jan 1, 2011
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    Lindsay Guest

    And all those buildings would be damaged, roads, bridges, telecoms, power
    assets...
    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/row-gently-down-the-street/story-e6frf7kx-1111113840617

    I guess the tenants of this house love pulling up the carpet...

    Oh well, have you got any data thats firmer than the above?
     
    Lindsay, Jan 1, 2011
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    G-S Guest

    The problem with checking is that councils do the flood ratings for
    land, if people had been buying in Bairnsdale and even if they'd bee
    doing their due diligence checks then the prospective buyer would have
    been told "This block has a 1 in 80 year flood rating".

    That's probably an optimistic rating :)


    G-S
     
    G-S, Jan 1, 2011
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