The Plains Run.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Krusty, Jan 17, 2011.

  1. Krusty

    Krusty Guest

    Well that was a bit of a giggle. I was late getting going as usual, so
    had to ride like a bit of **** to get there on time. 40 miles in 40
    minutes may not sound like much but with knobbly tyres on wet roads
    with several 30mph villages thrown in, it was a bit hairy.

    40 bikes turned up, mostly the sort of things sensible people use to
    tackle trails that are mainly wet mud on top of chalk. The exceptions
    were me (the only Tiger) & a couple of 1200 GS's. I immediately noticed
    the number of new tyres present, & wondered if I'd regret turning up
    with very worn & rounded knobblies (for big trailie values of
    knobblies). The answer became very clear very quickly, & it was a big
    fat 'YES'.

    The organisers did a little pre-ride spiel along the lines of "we'll be
    sticking to the by-ways, but if you want to do your own thing & meet up
    for lunch, that's fine - just don't tell the land wardens you're with
    us if you get busted". No road captain bollocks here then.

    There were going to be three groups - one for novices & big trailies
    which would avoid the deep ruts & worst of the mud, one for
    intermediates which would suit people on small bikes who weren't very
    experienced & masochists on big trailies, & the final group for
    everyone else (definitely no big trailies). Needless to say I went for
    the middle group, which had around 10 people, all on sensible bikes
    apart from me & a 1200GS.

    We set off once I'd finished fending off all the "what the ****** is
    that?!?" questions directed at RatTig, & it didn't take long to regret
    my tyre choice. Or rather my total apathy towards tyre choice. I was OK
    for traction, but the front tyre may as well have been a slick. It
    didn't self-clean at all, so I ended up with a mud dohnut after only a
    few yards. Standing up was out of the question as I was constantly
    having to jab a foot down to stop the front shooting out sideways,
    which made for very tiring progress. Somehow I managed to keep it
    upright all day though, unlike the GS which did an impressive sideways
    half-roll in front of me, taking out the screen mounts, a spotlight & a
    footpeg in the process, & squishing a crashbar into the tank.

    I decided to call it a day at the lunch stop, mainly because it was on
    the right side of the Plain & I didn't fancy going all the way back
    down to Andover then have to ride home in the dark & rain. Little 35
    watt enduro headlights ain't great for that sort of thing. The rain
    started a few hundred yards from home so I timed it perfectly.

    All in all a bloody good but very tiring day. There's another one
    planned for early July which I'll probably do on RatTig if it hasn't
    been raining all week beforehand, but I think I'll stick to more
    sensible bikes for winter trailrides.

    Some pics:
    url:
    http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2112865&id=1357073246&l=8a6ee09e0d
     
    Krusty, Jan 17, 2011
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    sweller Guest

    I wanted to do that run but after a long day travelling from Holyhead to
    Brighton, followed by changing the engine and an early start with unknown
    quantity of a motor discretion was the better part of valour.

    I'm still aching after manhandling the engine into that bike...

    However, I'm up for a bit of trail riding in the future.
     
    sweller, Jan 17, 2011
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    Krusty Guest

    An engine change? What happened to the other one?
     
    Krusty, Jan 17, 2011
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    sweller Guest

    I was slightly concerned that my MT500 was eating cam belts - especially
    with Norway coming up - but noticed the guides on the crank cam belt
    pulley weren't running true, so it seemed a simple fix.

    However, taking the crank cam belt pulley off was a shock. The taper on
    both the crank and pulley were shot to bits and the pulley was jammed in
    position with a couple of masonry nails stuffed up the extra key slots on
    the cam pulley. So the whole thing wasn't running true!

    As well as the the taper being toast the keyway in the crank was damaged
    out of tolerance (now 6mm instead of 4mm) by the rocking of the cam belt
    pulley - because masonary nails aren't that great as keys.

    New engine - sourced and picked within 6 hours of the diagnosis - is a
    lot better and has been previously the subject of a strip and 'refresh'.

    Valve timing's a lot fucking better too.

    Clutch is sticky after a bit of use and adjustment(s) has gone from rough
    downshifts and impossible to select neutral at a stand to roughish
    downshifts and just bloody difficult to select neutral.

    This is not uncommon for Rotax engines using additive type oils and have
    been stood a while. Apparently they get better with use....
     
    sweller, Jan 17, 2011
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  5. Krusty

    sweller Guest

    Meant to add - this is usually caused by using a three legged puller
    instead of the proper threaded type.

    An Armstrong specialist said they can be easily straightened using
    sockets and a vice. New ones are £85+vat.

    ....anyway the taper was fucked.
     
    sweller, Jan 17, 2011
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    JB Guest

    If you get the crank out I know a good firm who can repair the damaged
    keyway.

    JB
     
    JB, Jan 17, 2011
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  7. Krusty

    sweller Guest

    Thanks, I've been offered a bottom end with a decent crank for very
    little.

    The good engine wasn't a great deal - price payable on a safe return from
    Norway! Which was very decent of the chap, especially as he doesn't know
    me.

    I'll rebuild the original engine at my leisure and sell the replacement
    for what I paid for it.

    I think the Armstrong is a keeper as I really like riding it. And it's
    pretty crash proof, as I demonstrated yesterday on a bit waste ground.
     
    sweller, Jan 17, 2011
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    Krusty Guest

    Jesus wept, there are some right animals out there.
     
    Krusty, Jan 17, 2011
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    <Fesses up>

    I once bodged a rear wheel bearing on the Husky 510. It had a 250 wheel
    in it (originally a trick MX bike ridden by someone quite famous and
    prepared by Dudley Witt) that was modified to fit the 510 by machining
    the hub and fitting a bigger bearing. It came loose just before a hill
    climb meeting. Too much play for just loctite bearing fit to secure, so
    I cut pieces of very thin feeler gauge, poked them between the bearing
    and hub with oodles of loctite then got the wheel back in and bolted up
    straight before it all set. Got me through scrutineering and lasted a
    surprisingly long time. Not quite so mission critical as a timing keyway
    though.

    Then there was the stepped key we made on Mrs Kelly's camp site in Sulby
    Glen from an old bicycle spanner to take up the slop in a AJS single
    alternator rotor. Hacksaw and file work using mole grips nailed to a
    FOAD tree stump as a vice. Heat treated in the camp fire and quenched in
    Okells IIRC. Got the rider round for the rest off TT week and home again
    down the M6.



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    Pete Fisher, Jan 17, 2011
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  10. Frucking squaddies, eh?
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 17, 2011
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  11. Tell the youth of that, today...

    .... and they'll say, "Thank **** for the Japanese".
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 17, 2011
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    wessie Guest

    Steve is reporting £600 raised for charity on UKGSer
     
    wessie, Jan 17, 2011
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    Krusty Guest

    We're a bunch of fucking heroes & no mistake.
     
    Krusty, Jan 17, 2011
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