The truth about the LibDems aka FibDems

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Exposing FibDems, Oct 4, 2004.

  1. FibDems say they have abolished tuition fees in Scotland yet the
    reality is that Scottish students will just pay them after they
    graduate. The FibDems still continue to get driven around in
    ministerial Mondeos.

    They say the council tax is unfair, should be scrapped and then
    replaced with a system based on ability to pay. Yet when such a motion
    presented itself in the Scottish Parliament they voted against it. It
    was a FibDem Minister who tabled the counter motion.

    They had a manifesto commitment in Scotland to support schemes to
    rehabilitate young criminals like the Airborne initiative in
    Lanarkshire. Yet they voted to close Airborne along with Labour MSPs.

    In elections they stand on a policy to stop the use of GM crops. Yet
    in the Scottish Parliament they voted to allow GM crops. A FibDem
    Minister was the one who gave the go-ahead. He still continues to get
    driven around in ministerial Mondeo.

    They have a policy to reduce the number of new roads because they
    believe new road building is often unnecessary, and encourages people
    to use roads. Yet FibDem Councillors and MPs have supported numerous
    new road projects.

    FibDem MP Don Foster wrote to the Transport Minister insisting that he
    should encourage more congestion charges in cities throughout the UK.
    Yet in his constituency he is opposed to road charging.

    In Edinburgh the late Tory councillor Brian Meek exposed their
    duplicity about a proposal to close off an Edinburgh road because
    drivers used it as a shortcut. Local residents were divided about the
    proposal. The FibDems leafleted half the street supporting the
    proposal and the other half opposing it.

    In Cheadle the FibDem MP told the local paper that she fully supported
    Foundation Hospital status for Stepping Hill Hospital. Yet days before
    that she voted at Westminster against the idea of Foundation
    Hospitals.

    FibDems say they will continue to press the Government for a
    moratorium on any new or additional incinerator capacity. Yet in
    Sheffield their Councillors voted to build an incinerator to burn
    two-thirds of the city's rubbish.

    FibDems have a policy in favour of a ban on fox hunting. It is passed
    by their federal conference which is the sovereign body of the
    FibDems. So how come a number of their MPs vote against a ban?


    Why vote for the FibDems when they don't even support what they stand
    for and what people think they are voting for?

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    ‘People want honesty… It should be about being straight with people,
    telling it as it is, being honest and direct, appealing to hopes and
    aspirations rather than playing upon fears and divisions' (Charles
    Kennedy, Speech to LGA Conference, 4 July 2002).

    ‘Sometimes in politics you've got to lie' (Charles Kennedy, The
    Mirror, 2 May 2002).
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    The Liberal Democrats' own internal campaigning documents, exposed
    before the 2002 local elections and still being sold at their
    September 2003 Party Conference, urge Liberal Democrats:

    ‘Be wicked, act shamelessly, stir endlessly' (p.21)

    ‘Don't be afraid to exaggerate. For example, responses to surveys or
    petitions are always "massive". If a council is doing something badly,
    public expressions are always of "outrage".' (p.23)

    ‘Positive campaigning will NOT be enough to win control of the
    council' (p.4)

    ‘you can secure support from voters who normally vote Tory by being
    effectively anti-Labour and similarly in a Tory area secure Labour
    votes by being anti-Tory' (p.6)

    ‘You don't have to answer the question "What's in it for me if I vote
    for you?" or worse, "What will you do?" Those questions should only be
    answered by ruling groups' (p.21)

    ‘Oppose all service cuts… No cut is going to be popular and why court
    the unpopularity that goes with the responsibility of power' (p.25)

    ‘You are NOT running the council. It's NOT your problem' (p.33)

    (Source: Association of Liberal Democrat Councillors, Effective
    Opposition).
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    An independent academic study of the 2001 general election has
    highlighted how the Liberal Democrats campaign negatively, despite
    claiming to act honestly.

    ‘What was also significant about the Liberal Democrat campaign was the
    amount of negative campaigning. The party sought to portray itself as
    one which campaigned honestly and did not use such tactics lightly.
    Nevertheless… negative tactics formed a considerable part of the
    party's campaign.

    Nearly 38 per cent of the party's press releases were negative… Only
    around 50 per cent of the party's campaign was based on politics and
    issues' (A.Geddes & J.Tonge (eds), Labour's Second Landslide – The
    British General Election 2001, University of Manchester Press,
    p.74-75).
     
    Exposing FibDems, Oct 4, 2004
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  2. Exposing FibDems

    tallbloke Guest

    (Exposing FibDems) wrote in

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    This is the same old tosh you posted first time, twat.
    **** off.
     
    tallbloke, Oct 4, 2004
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