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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Brimstone, May 29, 2007.

  1. Brimstone

    Champ Guest

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    Ta for that.
    Hmm. On the example of an alcoholic, I'm really not sure.

    <thinks>

    OK, I think they should have an equal slot.

    When I broke my collarbone racing, I told the medic that I
    specifically wanted to be racing at the next meeting in 7 weeks, and
    he was completely supportive. No suggestion that I didn't 'deserve'
    treatment. Which is as it should be - healthcare is there to support
    people leading *their* lives - if that involves drinking oneself to a
    stupor or crashing motorbikes, so be it.

    The example that made the news last year was overweight people and hip
    replacement ops. I can believe such ops have poorer outcomes for
    overweight people, so it doesn't seem unreasonable to ask them to lose
    weight first. But, in the light of what I've written above, it does
    have the whiff of slippery slope about it.
     
    Champ, May 31, 2007
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    Ace Guest

    One of the advantages of incurance-driven healthcare is that these
    issues are irrelevant. In some areas, of course, like the US, it's
    done by another means, so you risk being priced out of the market or
    refused cover if you're 'high-risk', but this isn't inherent to the
    concept, just a poor implementation.

    In Switzerland, they seem to get it right - health insurance is
    mandatory for everyone (although state-funded for the unemployed) and
    as such is relatively well regulated, so you can't be refused cover
    for pre-existing illnesses, for example. Accident insurance is
    completely separate, and has to be provided by the employer.

    The hospitals themselves seem to be state-sponsored in some way I
    can't quite fathom, in that there's always a Kantonspital, i.e. the
    normal main hospital for a region, and often separate University
    Hospitals. Here in Basel they're physically the same place, but it
    seems that some services are provided by one, some by the other.
    Basically it means that they're not in competition, nor operating in a
    free economic market such as they do in the US.

    Of course, I can only go by our own experiences, but so far every
    aspect of healthcare is vastly superior to that we were used to in the
    UK, even when we were private and/or insurance-funded patients.

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    Ace, May 31, 2007
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    Rich B Guest

    That would be telling.
     
    Rich B, May 31, 2007
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  4. Why don't you **** off to alt.fucking.xenophobic.neanderthal.****, where
    your sort are positively welcomed?
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    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

    Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
    river cleaned out in a day.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 31, 2007
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  5. I did a short magazine bio on a bike racer. I asked why he got into
    racing; he said that his friends told him to do so as they were tired
    of visiting him in hospital from his road accidents.
    In the ten years since he began racing, he'd never been in another
    accident - road or track.

    If someone could revive Joey D and offer him the chance to be filling
    ale glasses in his pub for fifty years, safely or relive that life he
    had, which do you think he'd choose?
     
    Now in San Diego, Jun 1, 2007
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