The value of servicing

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Nige, May 12, 2007.

  1. Nige

    Nige Guest

    Had the blade serviced yesterday, had it done at Steve Dale
    Motorcycles at steeton, Keighley. He gave it a very good going over,
    changed all fluids including fork oil & brake fluid. He told me
    afterwards it has a K&N & has been dynojetted (whatever that is) to
    match the Yoshi can.

    Bloody hell, it's like a different bike. It wheelies for fun now, I
    know this as i just did one outside my own house (what a tool)

    All this was £200, not cheap, but I know it's been done right. He did
    the valve clearances & the whole bloody lot.

    All in all, very pleased.

    --
    'Chill Winston.......'

    Nige

    Subaru WRX (54)
    Land Rover Discovery II (2001)
    BMW GS1200 (2007)
    Honda CBR900RR Fireblade (1997)
     
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    Cane Guest

    http://www.dynojet.co.uk/jetkits/index.htm
     
    Cane, May 12, 2007
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  3. Nige

    Nige Guest

    Cheers, so, I better tell the insurance company about these mods then i
    suppose. I didn't even know it had them.

    It does ride rather nice indeed.


    --
    'Chill Winston.......'

    Nige

    Subaru WRX (54)
    Land Rover Discovery II (2001)
    BMW GS1200 (2007)
    Honda CBR900RR Fireblade (1997)
     
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    Cane Guest

    Nooooo! Don't do that, there's no need. It's hardly a supercharger,
    turbo or Nitro and they'll ramp up your premium.
    Mine always feels like a new bike once it's had a good going over.
     
    Cane, May 12, 2007
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  5. Nige

    Nige Guest

    I could always say i didnt know they where there. the Yoshi can sounds
    lovely & looks great. I doubt they give a massive boost to the great
    performance anyway.....

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    'Chill Winston.......'

    Nige

    Subaru WRX (54)
    Land Rover Discovery II (2001)
    BMW GS1200 (2007)
    Honda CBR900RR Fireblade (1997)
     
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    So you momentarily lose concentration and knock down a kid, crippling
    but not killing. Your ins.co. is looking at a £1m+ settlement. They'll
    happily spend several grand on trying to prove that you had broken the
    conditions of your insurance (such as not telling them of
    modifications that would affect performance) so that you're liable for
    that £1m, not them. And in your case they'll succeed.

    I suggest you rethink.
     
    Colin Irvine, May 12, 2007
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    Kiran Guest

    Err, Colin, they would still be liable.
     
    Kiran, May 12, 2007
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  8. Nige

    Kiran Guest

    OTOH, my GSXR was serviced a week before the French run - good thing I
    checked the oil before I went though [1]

    [1] Needed about 400ml to get it between the two marks. I wonder if they
    forgot to top up after allowing the oil to run through the new filter.
     
    Kiran, May 12, 2007
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  9. Nige

    Colin Irvine Guest

    Ah. I thought you risked being uninsured. Can you elaborate, or point
    me in the direction of elaboration? I mean, obviously you'll be right,
    but I like to understand rather than simply know, IYSWIM.
     
    Colin Irvine, May 12, 2007
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  10. I have quite up front and honest with my insco's. When asked about
    modifications I tell them I am on a continuous search to flatten and
    widen the power band, to move the torque further down the rev range to
    improve power delivery and fuel consumption in the areas where I can
    safely use it to best advantage and they have consistently told me I
    will not get a discount for it. Cunts the lot of them.


    Doesn't that rather imply a pre qualification of which we have no proof?
     
    steve auvache, May 12, 2007
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  11. Nige

    BGN Guest

    While I probably wouldn't tell my ins. co about any modifications I
    think that their request is reasonable.

    If anything on the machine increases the power, and, as such,
    increases the risk/insurance group then they could turn a claim down
    or cancel your insurance when they found out.

    It's like taking out a medical insurance policy and saying "Oh no,
    nothing's wrong with me" when one has a heart condition and then
    trying to claim for something related to the heart condition.
     
    BGN, May 12, 2007
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  12. Oh come on. I see your point but that example makes a fair few
    assumptions.
     
    Mr. Fantastic, May 12, 2007
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  13. Nige

    Nige Guest

    Is there any proof that they do alter the performance? Do i tell them i
    am fitting clear indicators, do I tell them i have just fitted a new
    clear rear light set?

    For what it's worth, i didnt fit them & for all i know it could have
    been fit as standard as i bought it second hand.


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    'Chill Winston.......'

    Nige

    Subaru WRX (54)
    Land Rover Discovery II (2001)
    BMW GS1200 (2007)
    Honda CBR900RR Fireblade (1997)
     
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    Kiran Guest

    Been a while since I looked at it, but basically, once an insurer issues a
    certificate of insurance for a vehicle, they may be liable to third parties
    for any damage caused by the person driving. Look at s151 of the Road
    Traffic Act 1988. There are many exceptions but I think it would apply in
    the case above.
     
    Kiran, May 12, 2007
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    But don't they only issue that certificate on the basis that the bike
    is as you have described it?

    What if you put a bigger engine in? A more extreme case than tuning an
    engine up, but wouldn't the same principle apply?
     
    Colin Irvine, May 12, 2007
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  16. Nige

    Nige Guest

    But I havent done any mods at all. I dont know if they are enhancing
    performance, i know nothing regarding this kind of thing. How would I
    know what a Yoshi can was? It's only as it says it on the very nice
    carbon fibre thing.

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    'Chill Winston.......'

    Nige

    Subaru WRX (54)
    Land Rover Discovery II (2001)
    BMW GS1200 (2007)
    Honda CBR900RR Fireblade (1997)
     
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    Kiran Guest

    Did you read s151? No, then do and you'll understand what it's all about.
    The insurer's entitlement to cancel/avoid as against the proposer may be of
    no effect as against a third party.

    http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/Ukpga_19880052_en_7.htm

    If there's no insurance, the victim can claim against the Motor Insurers
    Bureau - which is funded by, guess? The insurance industry. So, either way,
    the insurance market pays. Holding the issuer of the certificate liable is
    just one way of doing this and is a slightly less randon system.
     
    Kiran, May 12, 2007
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  18. Nige

    Nige Guest

    So, you are saying that if i had 3rd party only it means **** all if i
    put a turbo on it & not tell them? As i wont be claiming from them.

    Or have i misread your post?


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    'Chill Winston.......'

    Nige

    Subaru WRX (54)
    Land Rover Discovery II (2001)
    BMW GS1200 (2007)
    Honda CBR900RR Fireblade (1997)
     
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  19. Nige

    Colin Irvine Guest

    I'm glad IANAS!

    What's s152 (2) about, then?
     
    Colin Irvine, May 12, 2007
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  20. Nige

    Kiran Guest

    Comes down to what is "material". I suppose your theoterical example of a
    bigger engine might just entitle the insurer to avoid. I really can't see a
    dynojet being "material" i.e. in the sense that it would alter the
    underwriter's decision to write the risk at the stated premium.
     
    Kiran, May 13, 2007
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