This is running well today.......

Discussion in 'Classic Motorcycles' started by JB, Aug 9, 2010.

  1. JB

    JB Guest

    Took the KMX200 out for a mooch about the Plains yesterday. My weekly
    de-stress session. Did about 60 miles or so offroad over some very mixed
    terrain. Sweaty, knackered and happy, I come down off the Plains on to the
    Devizes road.
    This thing is running really well today. No overheating, plenty of poke. no
    nasty noises from the engine at all.
    .......best it's run in ages. Only 5 miles to go now, let's give it a bit of
    a clear out on the downhill. 60....70......coming up on 9krpm....80..yes!
    2seconds later, 60..50..40...screeeeeeeeeeeeep. Skid. Stop.
    Bollocks. Seized.
    Glad that didn't happen an hour or so back in the middle of the Plains.
    Call the SO. Comes out with the Beemer and tow rope. Being towed at 45mph on
    a 15' tow rope keeps the mind focussed I can tell you.
    Tried to free off the engine this morning. No joy. Piston and barrel bonded
    at a molecular level I reckon.
    Time for a top end rebuild. About an hours work as it's a nice simple
    stroker.

    JB
     
    JB, Aug 9, 2010
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    JB Guest

    Nah. I've got a mandrel type puller specifically for that job. As to why it
    seized, now that's the big question. I think it broke a ring and/or lost a
    piece of 'land' between the two rings. We'll see tonight anyway.

    JB
     
    JB, Aug 9, 2010
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    JB Guest

    What is the meaning of life? etc...Why do strokers _always_ do this? Who
    knows?
    I dearly love strokers even all of their little 'foibles'. I'd never be
    without one given the choice. Ideally another KX500 and a KR1.
    I just wish you got more than a second or two's warning prior to terminal
    damage. It felt just for a >tiny< second like it was thinking of going onto
    reserve. Silly me for not hitting the kill switch and clutch there and then,
    but I was hopeful/stupid!
    Engine out tonight. Autopsy at 11.
    Spares engine is still up in the barn, so I see a rummage for that later
    this week for a possible barrel donation.

    JB
     
    JB, Aug 9, 2010
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    SteveH Guest

    I could well be taking bollocks - but I'm sure I read somewhere that
    running the 'best it ever has' was to do with running lean, therefore
    overheating, before blowing.
     
    SteveH, Aug 9, 2010
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    JB Guest

    I've heard this. Experienced it on an X7 too so I know it can be based on
    reality. Split in the inlet rubber did for the LH piston on that one.
    On the KMX I'm not too sure. It was nearly flat out but that's not unusual.
    The airfilter is standard but I'll be checking the rubbers as I drop the
    engine tonight. It's got an inline filter so shit in the carb shouldn't be
    an issue. We'll see.....
    JB
     
    JB, Aug 9, 2010
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    crn Guest

    They all do that sir.
    Two strokes sieze due to a lack of lubrication, something is wrong in the
    petrol/oil mixing department.
    Also check piston clearances, they can pinch up due to expansion when they
    get hot if the piston to bore clearance is tight.
     
    crn, Aug 9, 2010
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    I was told this too, after I blew up my race-tuned 250LC and
    subsequently checked the jet sizes. I bought it pre-tuned and never
    thought to check the jet sizes; it ran brilliantly but had a main jet
    size of only 150 - the stock size is 190. I really didn't know much
    about performance two-strokes at the time, so it was educational as
    well as character-building.
     
    Pip Luscher, Aug 9, 2010
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  8. The time I seized an X7 it was due to a piston cracking. Given
    its age and history it wasn't surprising. Practice for a national race at
    Oran Park on the Saturday, dropped down a gear at 90-plus at the end of
    the straight, turned left and heard this loud screeching. Thought I'd
    locked up the back brake, let it off, the bike continued to hang out the
    rear, the concrete wall started looming... Just as I realised that the
    sound wasn't the tyre but the engine, basic primal instincts went into
    action and I blacked out. Next thing I recall I was rolling onto the
    grass after the next right-hander. I'd pulled in the clutch and braked to
    a halt under autopilot while my brain was saying, "You don't want to
    remember this, it may hurt!"

    Had a similar period of blackout when I did a 70-mph faceplant in
    Vancouver after a novice tried to go under me in a corner, forced me off
    the track and into an intimate meeting with a drainage ditch. No memory
    from when the front wheel hit the ditch until I picked myself off the
    ground. That time I think I fainted again after standing up -- next I knew
    I was surrounded by pit personnel who had jumped the wall and ran across the
    track to try to help me.

    --
    Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
    Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
    GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005
    WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
    KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
     
    Dr Ivan D. Reid, Aug 9, 2010
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