*This* is why we do it ourselves

Well, one of yours has escaped and is living in my garage. Come and take
the bastard back.

 

well, no.

I pointed out that it was simply unusable - for example some of the
dropdowns dropped down off the bottom of the embedded spreadsheet, so
you couldn't select them. Also, some of the fields were initially off
the right hand edge, and if you dragged it across, you couldn't drag
it back so the /left/ hand side fields were inaccessable.

The mad thing about it was that there was nothing to the presentation
apart from a title page and the embedded spreadsheet on slide two.

 

Personal observation between 1988-98. Reported downward trend in
quality of students on Motor Vehicle, Wood trades, craft Electrical,
Welding by staff I still know at a tech college.

Not anymore. I stopped doing charity work 11 years ago and got a job
on double the money.

 

10 years out of date then.

How are they defining quality?

How are they intersecting with the 14-19 agenda? personailised
learning? ECM?

Good. 'They' are individuals who deserve more than to be lumped
together and written off.

 

you base this statement on what?

 

Feminist instincts.

 

I've wirked with them too, most deserve a switly administered bullet to
the back of the fucking neck.

 

Yours is nothing more than a preposterous imposter. My 4 steadfastly refuse
to leave as they're extremely well fed.



--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19

 

1. Giving a ****

2. Research.

 

*glingle*

 

Fucking *glingle*?


--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19

 

There's nothing like getting at a **** off big machine and chomping up lumps
of metal or wood. Metalwork and woodwork classes were always looked forward
to coz there was something to see, touch and hold at the end of the lesson
or course, but my old school (much modernised since my time there) no longer
have metalwork or woodwork classes to anything like the same extent as they
used to.

I have a feeling I'm getting a grandaughter who's likely to be mechanically
minded. She acquired a plastic motorbike (toy, no engine) yesterday and she
reported that "It won't start, but I'm going to fix it" at which point she
asked for the keys to the garage Apparently this bike also had "a rash"
which needed some cream. That was actually a split in the plastic "fuel"
tank. I nearly wet myself when she told me it had a rash though.

On H&S grounds no doubt?


--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19

 

They write themselves off. Staff bendover backwards keeping those bums
on seats but they goof off.

On a visit 2 years ago at about this time of the year I looked in the
electrical craft workshop. There was a bay with a really codged up
installation in it. Conduit with gooseneck bends that were tighter one
side than other, joggle _/- with one side rising instead of parallel,
cable tray mitre joint that didn't meet properly so had 1cm gap on one
end. I commented on how piss it was and asked if they had started
running courses late in the year or for special needs as it looked
like the work of a new starter. I was told the work represented the
3rd re-sit for a student's end of year electrical craft fitting
assessment. It had just scraped up a pass as allowance was made for
some fittings being 3rd hand by then but I wouldn't have given that.
Ask what would have happened 10 years ago and the answer is wouldn't
have got a re-sit = FAIL.

Then there's the case where a welding student wafted an oxy-acetylene
torch over the oxy pressure gauge on next set of welding bottles down
the line to the extent that the solder melted into the gauge flame
trap so the gauge didn't show pressure at torch. Hot molten metal in
contact with pure oxygen is likely to ignite and burn quite well. If
anyone was found to have done something like that in industry it would
be instant dismissal. He didn't get thrown off the course, didn't even
have to pay for the damage. 20 years ago he would have been kicked out
so hard he would have landed in court.

3 years ago at work during a team meeting my manager reported on how
recruitment was going. He said they had taken the unprecedented step
of phoning an applicant's university. Not to find out if the applicant
had the qualification they claimed but to find out if they had ever
been to that uni. The last 3 recruits have not been British. Briefing
2 weeks ago said that recruitment is back on but only looking at MSc.
Nov 07 I was sent on a training course at Dassault Systèmes, all 10
attendees were from the firm I work for in Derby. I was the only
English person on the course. I had thought there were 2 but he turned
out to be a Kiwi.

 

Go back to sleep.
You have been whooshed by a Pratchett reference.

 

We've recently set up a small scale workshop for students to do
project work and learn some basic machining. One of my colleagues gave
it as his view that we need a minimum accident rate because the
students will learn nothing if they don't hurt themselves now and
again.

 

He's a fucking idiot.

If that's the best that can be found to teach machining to students
then they're better off not bothering.

 

<looks at scraped knuckes from this morning's efforts>

I'm not sure you ever learn.

--
Krusty

'03 Tiger 955i
'02 MV Senna (for sale) '96 Tiger (for sale)
'79 Fantic Hiro 250 (for sale) '81 Corvette (for sale)

 

Indeed and I'm actually quite jealous of her. Apart from regular rides
in a Unimog, Landrover, and various tipper trucks (and associated
'fun' of being in a 3 seater or crew-cab with a bunch of 'lads') it's
as you say, they playing with chain saws, chippers (that happily (and
quickly) consume 6" diameter bits of brush), remote controlled,
tracked stump grinders etc etc.

She seems much happier in herself as well now. Not just the routine of
having to be somewhere from 7-4 but actually doing what she likes with
people she likes (so far anyway). I just need to sort her out with
some throw-overs or a tail pack and cargo net so she can start using
her MZ for work.

Yep. I remember actually making useful stuff in such classes. My std
lamp still being used by Mum and Dad and the 6' dinghy is still in my
lockup (with the 3 other boats, the Messerschmitt, C5 and folding
caravan <g>). In the BT training school I made an automatic battery
charger and in workshop practice I made some cold chisels and the
mandatory machine clamps. ;-)

Neat. We looked upon our kid as a person ... introducing her to all
the things we did. For me that would be workshop / machine stuff,
Granny and Grandad took her to Paris, Amsterdam and all the art
galleries and museums and other family took her to football matches
and gigs etc.

Aww, bless!

Christ knows, probably. My Mrs works for an educational supplier and
they even have to test plastic storage boxes to see if they can
support the weight of a child if they are used upside down as steps
ffs.

T i m

 

He doesn't teach the machining, proper technicians do. As for the
accident rate, I think he's half right: the only way to *guarantee*
a zero accident rate is to never let anybody do anything. If you
want people to learn to use equipment properly, you have to accept
there will be an accident rate.

 

You've now caused it to actually exist.