*This* is why we do it ourselves

She could but while she's spending our money we like a say in the
mater. She stayed over at a mates last night so I picked a pair of
Oxford jobbies from Argos this morning and I helped her fit them today
(advice rather than doing). We went out for a test ride with the
panniers full of stuff and then with the addition of all her climbing
gear in one of those waterproof roll-down bags on top (across the
pillion position). She seemed quite happy with it but had to bring a
tTaquando type turning kick into play to get on and off the bike
afterwards! ;-)

Blige. Tough test.

Some are that's for sure. ;-)

Ah. And how old is she?

They do indeed.

When ours was quite new she was out with Granny and Grandad in the
car. Granny offered her a treat and said .. "Would you like a Jaffa
cake?"

"No Granny' said v young daughter, "It's ker (as in curling ker) for
cake" .. ;-)

Yup. Take all the fucking safety stickers off everything and let
Darwin work his magic on all the stupid people (and hence keep their
numbers down).

T i m

 

<snip good stuff>

Outside the poor tools and materials thing and acknowledging that a
percentage of the attendees would rather be somewhere else there is
still the lack of pride in what many do these days. The 'that's good
enough' approach to doing things.

Daughter left her 3D design course partly because of the lackadaisical
and disrespectful attitude of some of the students, something she's
seen repeated on the Arb course. A seemingly total lack of respect for
their mentors, the course, the system and it's property.

Luckily when I were a lad such things were simply not considered
acceptable. Talking when your tutor was talking would get you first
warned then thrown out the class. 'Fucking about' with the equipment
or in general could get you thrown off permanently (and it was no idle
threat). hey can't so easily do that today ... accountants and 'bums
on seats' etc. ;-(

But then we probably knew what was good for us and realised what we
got was a good thing so appreciated it more and tried harder?

However, you still get round pegs in square holes ... kids on courses
for the wrong reasons or with no aptitude for the particular subject.
I was never 'interested' in much of the purely academic stuff [1],
only being bovvered if I saw it having a practical use outside the
classroom. I was bovvered about anything requiring hand skills hence
often scoring 100% for on any test work I was ask to produce. [2]

T i m

[1] But for the mentioned 'old school' reasons didn't disrupt those
who were.

[1] When I was at BT we had to do a test piece which involved
terminating 100 wires onto a terminal block. The wires had to be in
the colour order as prescribed, each joint had to be wrapped 1-1.5
times before soldering and no 'insulation runbacks' were permitted.
Apparently I was one of the few students to ever get 100% on that task
and my test piece was still in the display cabinet when I left BT 5
years later. ;-)

 

what research?

 

you didn't know that? sheesh

 

One of the many things.


--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19

 

Nothing like a bit of gymnastics to keep you (her) supple.

It was a fucker.

We're into that now. Kicking and curly "k's".

And it's not going to get any better either.

We have a nice big road hereabouts called "The East Lancs". This goes from
Manc to Liverpool (although why anyone would want to go to Liverpool is
beyond me) and it was *the* main road between the two until the opening of
the M62. The East Lancs is still an "almost" motorway being a wide dual
carriageway with two lanes each way and a **** off massive central
reservation. A few sets of lights and a couple of roundabouts and that's it,
but it's now being speed re-adjusted to suit it's new role as an urban road
(like **** is it urban). 32 miles of 50 fucking MPH. Fucking push bikes are
going faster.

--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19

 

Nina research. It's special.


--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, T i m

" "

=8^O

" "

Still, she's got to learn somehow, I suppose.

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

I have already made the greatest contribution to the fight against climate
change that I can make: I have decided not to breed. Now quit bugging me and
go and talk to the Catholics.

 

As an example I was going to link you to the coverage of one completed
project in the Graun but I prefer to keep my work out of UKRM as much
as possible. Unlike some I don't feel the need to flood the group with
details.

Every now and again (when I'm actually reading the group) some blanket
condemnation gets me riled up enough to respond. Usually after I've
seen some excellent practice which is making an enormous difference to
individuals, their families and their community.

 

snip>

It doesn't happen very often does it?

 

Sorry fella you've whooshed me there I think.

T i m

 

I was never 'ungifted' academically, but I still took Metalwork at O
Level.

You only need a pair of tinsnips to make a "fighting star" ...

Paul.

 

And cost, and no-one who knows how to, etc.

These new vocational diplomas mean that we have been re-training
teachers to teach metal bashing. And then there's the lack of maths and
science teachers who can run with practical vocational type material and
who, shock horror, might have to get involved with "engineers" for god's
sake or even get their hands a bit dirty.

The schools have had money thrown at them to buy the gear, but no-one
can use it or know what it takes to look after it.

Joined up thinking not taking place again.....

Steve

 

It's sad but true my nephew is taking (at school) a course in street-
dance (whatever that is - I assumed it was this
but it's not). He hasn't got
the option of physics etc, just 'science' which appears to be based on a
syllabus designed by Michael Bentine.

 

No more apprenticeships to send the little darlings onto afterwards and
the demise of Technical Colleges and Polytecnics (they've all rebranded
as Universities now) along with few opportunities for proper technical
work after training. Best to set the little loves expectations at
'working in a call centre' from the beginning.

If we'd kept the secondary modern schools I think lots of kids would have
more of a chance. It was the one chance for Billy Scroggins from
Scumsville to have a good start in life - if he passed the 11+ off he
went to the Grammar school. Now, if you live in Scumsville then it's
pretty much St Scum's comprehensive for you. If you want a good
comprehensive then your parents need to work hard enough to ensure you
live in the catchment area of a decent one, and not everyone has that
opportunity.

 

you only need a pencil to put someone's eye out.

ban pencils!