thought experiment

Does anyone actually read Damian posts?
All I can ever manage is the first and last sentences.
(P'raps I just have a short attention span...)

 

Point taken, but the example given concerns one single product (and rather
an intangible one).
Protective gear is made anywhere around the globe, if prices would shoot up
after legislation it would automatically open the door to more (and cheaper)
products,
different importers ( plus the "establishment" trying to get a slice of the
pie) and then there would also be only THAT much room in the high-price
bracket.
Initially you could well be right though.
cheers
pete

 

And yet you still feel compelled to respond!

Damien (keeping to one sentence so Clem can keep up)
GPX250 (stolen) -> CBR600

 

Yep, see the argument.
Then again...if the bike is 2K, 2.hand safety gear shouldn't be 1.5K...
Even going shopping frugally for new stuff could well finish up half that...
cheers
pete

 

By implementing ADRs for safety equipment and legislating its compulsory use.

They don't need to consider climatic conditions at all. They just need to
implement ADRs for safety and legislate it's compulsory use. Its then up to
the manufacturers or users to consider and deal with the climatic conditions.

Politicians make decisions based on concepts and leave it to the bureaucrats
to implement workable solutions.

Politicians make decisions based on concepts and leave it to the bureaucrats
to implement workable solutions.

Has it really been in the too hard basket or has it just been a low priority
which gets bounced around every now and then and then discarded as being
unnecessary?

What about people in places where the main street of town is a short 60kph
stretch but most of the locals travelling to town from their farm use 1 or 2
km of 100kph road?

Legislation for minimum gear across the board for all conditions is probably
the only thing which would work.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R
'02 CBR1100XX

 

Of course that should be AS not ADR.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R
'02 CBR1100XX

 

cynicism is all tool rampart after all

Nev..
'03 ZX12R
'02 CBR1100XX

 

Yaay; I read a whole one!!

 

"Knobdoodle" wrote

Yes, I've met them too.

Theo

 

"glitch1" wrote

People feared the cost of bicycle helmets would rise when they became
compulsory. In practice, the price of the cheaper helmets halved.

Theo

 

"Knobdoodle" wrote

Err, what?

Theo

 

<snip>

It wouldn't. If it got to that point I'd seriously think of leaving the
country. I can live with minimum standards even if I don't necessarily
agree with them but at the end of the day it's the nut holding the bars
that's the crucial safety component. Anyone who believes otherwise is
fooling themselves.
--
Deevo

Geraldton
WA, The Nanny State (® Corks)
http://members.westnet.com.au/mckenzie

 

Not compelled, driven! (by the curiosity to see what the response will
be).

Theo

 

"Zebee Johnstone" wrote

That's what I wear in summer. It would be too cold to ride in winter.

Then I wouldn't ride in summer.

Pretty much the same for me. My experience tells me that the risk of
crashing with my style of riding is very low whereas personal comfort
is something I have to deal with every trip I make. That's why I dress
for comfort, not for crashing.

Theo

 

Hah hah; and besides, it was really a "response" so much as and aside!
Clem

 

Dammit; "AN" aside!
Clem

 

At a minimum of...

$200 helmet
$200 jacket
$200 pants
$100 boots
$50 gloves

thats $750.

Ideally i'd like to spend $300 on helmet, and $250 on jacket/pants,
perhaps a little more on boots and gloves too. Brings the total up near
$1000 for half decent gear.

 

Pfft; $80 for a legal helmet and go enjoy yourself!
You don't wear all that wank when you drive your car or ride on the bus do
you?
Motorcycling is about ENJOYMENT; why would you introduce all these stupid
limitations to bugger it up?!!
Sure; if it ENHANCES the enjoyment (like waterproof gear on a wet day or
insulation on a cold day) then it's fine but if it's detracting from your
pleasure then ARSEHOLE IT IMMEDIATELY!!
Life is short and you're dead a long time!

 

What about $20 for the Hawaian shirt, $20 for the shorts and another $20 for
the sandals?

When will Draggin wake up and start making Kevlar Hawaian shirts?
--
Al

"Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon. "

Remove *ME* before replying

 

Many responses to this thread. I've read most of them, but I didn't see a
great deal about climate. Here in Qld it gets pretty warm sitting at the
lights in full leathers. I see guys wearing "summer leathers" all the time
(shorts and Tshirt) but I don't often see them doing monos in suburban
streets. Bulletproof guys with all the gear do that.

I agree with you that a responsible rider has to make an assessment of the
risks. That assessment has to be based on the things that you know (road
type, weather, riding style etc) and things you don't know or can't predict.

I'm not keen on another level of beauracracy policing minimum riding gear,
but I do support better education like the Vicroads campaign. People need to
make those judgements with a good knowledge base.