thought experiment

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Zebee Johnstone, Nov 15, 2003.

  1. Zebee Johnstone

    John Littler Guest

    Would probably reduce the number of long trips (sustained highway speeds in
    denim jacket gets uncomfortable). That's about it, leaving off gloves I'd find
    bothersome - it's the first injury point as it's next to impossible to totally
    rid yourself of the tendency to put your hands down if you came off and bugs and
    shit hitting your knuckles is irritating. Probably be too cold in winter.
    .....snip
    Would somewhat reduce my summer riding - would tend to not riding during the
    main part of the day during the hottest 3 months, and be a lot less likely to go
    north outside of winter, that's about it. Lack of wets in both cases would be an
    issue. I assume the lack of gloves in the "full gear" scenario is an oversight.

    To put it another way, in order of importance to me for protection is helmet,
    gloves, boots, sturdy leg covering, jacket. There's many times when I'll trade
    off protection for comfort and ride accordingly, (be far more paranoid if I'm
    squidding)

    JL
     
    John Littler, Nov 17, 2003
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  2. Zebee Johnstone

    John Littler Guest

    I ride in 'em all the time, and there's also a perfectly good set of gaerne
    boots in the cupboard, they're comfy and do the requisite job of covering the
    ankle with padding to prevent ankle breakage.

    JL
     
    John Littler, Nov 17, 2003
    #82
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  3. Zebee Johnstone

    Silmaril Guest

    $200 Helmet - yes.
    $200 Jacket - yes.
    $200 pants? hehehe
    $100 boots? What, specific motorcycle boots? I'm wearing single piece full
    leather scarpa hiking boots... and people are whinging about the metal hooks
    on em?!
    $50 gloves - yes.

    As you can see, my mental requirements for gear match up to yours except for
    boots and pants.
    The majority of my riding is suburban commuting, where I don't get above
    70km/hr. I also believe that if I'm involved in a crash while suburbanly
    commuting, its going to be a low speed one. Maybe one day if my finances
    improve astronomically, ie, i finish uni, i might buy draggin jeans. Until
    then, normal ones will do.

    I think going back to the original posting, we need to ask why the govt.
    would even consider implementing minimum gear legislation...? What's in it
    for them? Its not going to be a mega cash cow like speed cameras are... buy
    a camera and have it make $100+ a minute, as there would need to be people
    to process fines. It could hardly be argued that public health insurance
    costs would decrease if riders wore a minimum level of gear - and even if
    there was significant evidence that un-geared riders were taking up more
    than their share in health care, it'd be easier to just add a fee to the
    registration.

    Adrian
    CT-110
     
    Silmaril, Nov 17, 2003
    #83
  4. Zebee Johnstone

    Knobdoodle Guest

    I've "seen" 220 on the XJ ond a very vague 240-250ish on the Sprint. (Both
    at Phillip Island)
    Ain't speedometer-error grand?!
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 17, 2003
    #84
  5. Zebee Johnstone

    Knobdoodle Guest

    I knew them magnesium-alloy jeans were a mistake!
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 17, 2003
    #85
  6. Zebee Johnstone

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Double-dammit!!
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 17, 2003
    #86
  7. Zebee Johnstone

    Knobdoodle Guest

    I thought that was the Lexus and Infiniti?
    Clem
    [I don't really have a day job....]
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 17, 2003
    #87
  8. Zebee Johnstone

    Knobdoodle Guest

    I never figured out why bikies did this.
    When you tuck your pants in, the water runs straight into your boots!
    (Mind you; I had a couple of bad moments back in the late 70s when I
    accidentally dropped my Amco flare's leg over the kick-starter as I got on
    the bike and suddenly found I couldn't put my foot down at the next
    intersection!)

    And why would you turn your footy-socks out OVER your boot-tops?

    Clem
    [As soon as you get all the answers you have to die]
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 17, 2003
    #88
  9. Zebee Johnstone

    John Littler Guest

    Well yeah, hence rather than saying "an indicated 240 km/hr" I said the far more
    realistic 200ish. I've got rather an advantage over you on a semi faired bike
    though (aside from weighing a bit less) - I can tuck fully behind the screen so
    the windblast isnt a real issue :)

    JL
     
    John Littler, Nov 17, 2003
    #89
  10. On 17/11/03 10:13 PM, in article
    Its deja vu all over again...

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Nov 17, 2003
    #90
  11. Zebee Johnstone

    Knobdoodle Guest

    .....
    ~
    Hah hah; the subtle art of understatement won't die while you exist, John!!
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 17, 2003
    #91
  12. Zebee Johnstone

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Put JL on it and we'll have a new land record!!
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 17, 2003
    #92
  13. Zebee Johnstone

    Nev.. Guest

    So I'm not the only one who does this. *phew*

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Nov 17, 2003
    #93
  14. Zebee Johnstone

    Goaty Guest

    Debriding tool please ...

    Cheers
    Goaty
     
    Goaty, Nov 17, 2003
    #94
  15. In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:20:21 +1100
    Sure, it's a wonder what you can do with sticky labels nowadays!

    Zebee
    - who has had at least one bike going so far the needle hit the stop
    past all the numbers. OK, downhill with a following wind, and the
    highest number on the dial was 140 and that lied like a rug, but so?
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Nov 17, 2003
    #95
  16. Zebee Johnstone

    Goaty Guest

    Yes, but was the little needle anywhere near the 300?

    Cheers
    Goaty
     
    Goaty, Nov 17, 2003
    #96
  17. Zebee Johnstone

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "paulh" wrote
    My speedo doesn't have a 300, but I can see 240.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Nov 18, 2003
    #97
  18. Zebee Johnstone

    sharkey Guest

    Well, yeah, but you don't tuck your wets in ...

    Also, in the endless Melbourne drizzle, most of the actual water
    is a layer of mist sucked up by the cars (and your own front wheel)
    to about a foot or two above the ground ... so if you don't tuck
    your jeans in, they get wet!
    I for one need hear no more about Clem in flares going arse-up.
    When wearing hiking boots (bad shark! norty shark!) I've caught
    my jeans on the (chookie) pegs, which could be tricky if you
    didn't manage to shake 'em loose in time.
    Yeah, extreme dedication to tucking in, that. I mean, jeans
    inside your socks? Eww!

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Nov 18, 2003
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  19. Zebee Johnstone

    John Littler Guest

    Alzheimer's ?

    JL
     
    John Littler, Nov 18, 2003
    #99
  20. Zebee Johnstone

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Ohh JEEZUZ that'd hurt!!
    Just debriding your knee is painful enough!!
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 18, 2003
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