thought i'd try regular gas

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Technical Discussion' started by zoot, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. zoot

    zoot Guest

    82 750 seca doesn't rev when it's time to push in the choke. other
    than that i don't see a problem. is there something i should look for?
     
    zoot, Jun 10, 2009
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  2. zoot

    ¿ Guest

    Dirty carburetors. Go to Wal*Mart or any well-stocked auto parts store
    and buy a can of Berryman B12 Choke and Carburetor Cleaner for about
    $3.00.

    Buy the non-aerosol can so you can measure four or five ounces and
    *carefully* pour it into a full tank of gas.

    Don't get any on the paint, B12 contains toluene and acetone and MEK
    for quickly cleaning gum and varnish out of carburetors

    Then go for a slow ride using very little throttle so the engine will
    have to suck gasoline through the idle jets and idle passages.

    You'll know that the B12 has done its job when the engine idles faster
    when you stop. If some previous owner has adjusted the master idle
    knob to compensate for engine stalling, the engine may idle at 4000
    RPM when it's hot after the B12 does its job.

    It helps to know where the master idle knob is before you start out on
    this carb cleaning ride.
     
    ¿, Jun 10, 2009
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  3. zoot

    Schiffner Guest

    two things.

    one ignore krusty his brain is fossilized

    two you need an italian tune up. Drain the tank to less than 1/4 tank
    full, pour in a can of seafoam (yes the whole thing) top off the tank.
    THEN ride the piss out of it. Note you may have to rinse and repeat a
    time or two. That depends on how filty the carbs are, usually works on
    all but the worst cases. BTDT
     
    Schiffner, Jun 10, 2009
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  4. zoot

    Schiffner Guest

    SNIP

    B-12 is for minor issues. When you want the job done NOW and done well
    you use seafoam...you know nothing wiki bandit.
     
    Schiffner, Jun 10, 2009
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  5. zoot

    ¿ Guest

    Don't pay any attention to Butt Sniffer, he's crazy and may be off his
    meds.
    Seafoam is mostly *oil*, it's for treating *outboard motors* before
    storing them for the winter and for getting them to run again after
    they've rusted internally if they weren't stored carefully.

    Berryman B12 is the way to go when a motorcycle's carbs are dirty.
     
    ¿, Jun 10, 2009
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  6. No. Ultrasound cleaning is the way to go.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 10, 2009
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  7. zoot

    Who Me? Guest

    While I have no love for Krusty and his demented ramblings, he does get a
    few things right and this is one of them.

    Seafoam is really good at..........marketing. The stuff in that can that
    they have brainwashed you into paying ~$6 for probably costs them about 75
    cents to make. Not that it is bad or totally useless but there are better
    things for cleaning carbs and B-12 is one, that is much better and widely
    available.

    If you used a product that was really good, there would be no need to "rinse
    and repeat several times".
     
    Who Me?, Jun 10, 2009
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  8. zoot

    ¿ Guest

    And I have no use for grown men who get all giggly over British
    "humour"
    and feel the need to repeat it endlessly.
     
    ¿, Jun 10, 2009
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  9. zoot

    zoot Guest

    let me clear something up. i turn the choke on and start the motor.
    after a while it revs faster so i know to turn the choke off. since i
    put in regular unleaded it doesn't rev faster when it is warmed up. i
    kind of expected to hear knocking or something but so far so good as
    far as i can tell. anyone else use regular?
     
    zoot, Jun 11, 2009
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  10. zoot

    ¿ Guest

    That's odd, because regular is more volatile than premium. Premium
    burns cooler than regular.
    My liquid-cooled Yamaha FZR1000 is designed to run on regular, but I
    used premium for the first few years, thinking I was doing the engine
    good.

    So far as pinging goes, it has to be overheating to ping. The Yamaha
    has a small capacity cooling system, only about 3~4 quarts of coolant,
    and the engine temperature is all over the indicator dial on a hot
    day.

    Pinging can sound like anything from a loose valve to a loud *clank*!
    as I shut the engine off when it's very hot, around 220 degrees.

    My air-cooled GS1100 pings in heavy traffic after sitting at a stop
    light idling on a hot summer day. I use premium in that bike. The oil
    temperature on that bike can get up to 290 degrees on a hot day.

    My air/oil-cooled GSXR750 uses premium gas. It's tuned to the ragged
    edge of
    pinging. I can tell that because it burns all the carbon of the top of
    the piston directly under the spark plug.

    If you suspect pinging from light tinkling noises in the engine while
    you're accelerating in traffic after sitting at a stop light, you can
    tell that the engine is pinging by removing a spark plug and looking
    at the porcelin nose.

    If there are little black specks like pepper burned onto the spark
    plug, the engine is pinging.

    If you see little silver balls of aluminum on the spark plug, you're
    melting a hole in the piston. Don't ride until you fix the lean
    mixture problem or change to a higher octane gasoline.
     
    ¿, Jun 11, 2009
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  11. zoot

    Schiffner Guest

    Oh really? The WHY when B12 wont clean it out Seafoam will? BTDT In a
    pinch I'll use Techron over B12. But that's just my experience...it's
    free country so far, do as you will.
     
    Schiffner, Jun 11, 2009
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  12. zoot

    Schiffner Guest

    Thank Benz! Then again I'm too old for chickenhawk to be chasing.
     
    Schiffner, Jun 11, 2009
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  13. zoot

    Schiffner Guest

    Believe what you want chickenhawk...I go with what works and I've YET
    in many decades have Seafoam fail. B12 otoh has let me down more than
    once.
     
    Schiffner, Jun 11, 2009
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  14. zoot

    Schiffner Guest

    That's work! I mean you have to remove the carbs to do that. Any way
    the old fossil said it would make the metal dissolve...not that I
    believe a chickenhawk.
     
    Schiffner, Jun 11, 2009
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