Throttled by Kawasaki

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Black Bart, Feb 4, 2004.

  1. Black Bart

    Nev.. Guest

    ....but why would the spare parts guy give a shit about new bike sales?

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Feb 5, 2004
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  2. Black Bart

    Black Bart Guest

    Not everyone can afford a brand spanking new bike. Some of us have to ride older bikes
    otherwise it means not riding at all. By not supplying parts for older bikes they cut their
    customer base by a significant amount and also the revenue that would generate and also
    start pushing riders off the road. If this keeps up, I'll have to give up riding for good
    because there's no way I can afford something newer. Thanks for all the support.

    I'm seriously getting the feeling that because I ride an older bike and don't have the
    latest and greatest crotch rocket that I'm not a real motorcyclist and don't count.

    I was at the local bikeshop in Lilydale today getting a tyre fitted. They told me they won't
    touch my bike because "it's too old" and their mechanics are to precious to even look at
    anything earlier than 1990. How the hell is doing the valve clearences and balancing the
    carbs so frigging different on my bike than something from 1990? They had a frigging
    shop full of new bikes with carbs and valves. It's not like carb and valve technology
    changed that much from 85 to 90.

    If no-one will service the thing then I'm going to have to give up riding. I simply
    can't travel for an hour/hour and a half just to get the thing to a shop that will service it.
    The cost of getting someone to transport it for me is something I don't want or need.
    I may as well just sell it and drive the fucking car for christ's sake.
    Why did they put themselves out to get me a speedo cable and all the other parts I ordered
    and got for that model bike? Why get picky on just one thing like a speedo cable?
    Why didn't they tell me that "sorry, they don't make spark plugs for that bike anymore".
     
    Black Bart, Feb 6, 2004
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  3. Black Bart

    Black Bart Guest

    Make that a throttle cable.
     
    Black Bart, Feb 6, 2004
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  4. Interesting reading this thread. I would seriously have thought every
    bike shop would make more money selling spares than the margins on new
    bikes. Wasn't it Henry Ford who said that he wasn't in the business of
    selling cars, he was in the business of selling spare parts.

    I guess modern sportsriders' propensity towards a new bike each year
    probably heads that off a bit, but even still - the markup on spares
    is enormous. It'd probably cost $50k to build a $15k bike from spare
    parts.

    And it ain't as though a GPZ900R is that rare ....

    Cheers



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    Kevin Gleeson
    Technical Director
    Blue Rocket Productions
    Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
    www.blue-rocket.com.au
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Feb 6, 2004
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  5. Black Bart

    Black Bart Guest

    I forgot to mention that they were fully prepared to order me a choke cable
    from Kawasaki in Japan. Now, if they were going to do that, what's so fucking
    hard about getting a throttle cable included in the order? I'm getting sick of being
    fed bullshit from all and sundry about just how wrong it is to be trying to get an
    old bike back on the road. Understandably, I'm getting pretty fucking angry by now.
     
    Black Bart, Feb 6, 2004
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  6. Black Bart

    Gary Woodman Guest

    Wrong shop. Wrong mechanic. Keep looking.
    Mate, if you find the right mechanic, you may travel at least that far, and
    think yourself bloody lucky that they can find time to work on your bag-o'-
    bits. Stick with it - decent mechanics are out there.

    Gary
     
    Gary Woodman, Feb 6, 2004
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  7. Black Bart

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "Black Bart" wrote
    and don't count.

    I know just how you feel Bart. I'm an older bike rider and don't have
    the latest crotch rocket either.
    It's not like carb and valve technology
    Huh? what's a carb?

    Theo
    Two cylinders, four valves, no carb.
     
    Theo Bekkers, Feb 6, 2004
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  8. Black Bart

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "Black Bart" wrote
    fucking angry by now.

    Oh dearie me. Don't get angry. Go find any accessory shop which have
    them for 1/4 the OEM price. Everybody else knows that and that's why
    dealers don't stock them.

    Theo
    Thinking about trying to get his 1961 BSA back on the road.
     
    Theo Bekkers, Feb 6, 2004
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  9. In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 6 Feb 2004 16:27:34 +1100
    Do you have a throttle cable at all? even broken or grungy?

    If so, find the Flexible Drive bod in your state and ask if they can make up
    a copy.

    They aren't the only ones who do that kind of thing, search
    www.yellowpages.com.au putting "cables--mechanical" in the business
    type box. Go through the bods listed and see if anyone will make you
    one.

    Zebee
    - who only *has* old bikes, so has learned these things.
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Feb 6, 2004
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  10. Black Bart

    conehead Guest

    Bart, you need to understand what sarcasm, irony, piss-taking, and
    buggerising-about are all about.

    Anyway, here's the australian refernce on cables:

    http://www.ozcableguy.com/

    Happy to help.
     
    conehead, Feb 6, 2004
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  11. Black Bart

    Kimbo Guest

    Vehicle manufacturers are only required to keep a supply of spares
    available for a set period. 9 years, (IIRC), for any model they make.

    I found this out the hard way when I stacked my '87 Yamaha in '98.

    I enquired about some fairing parts I needed, and the bloke said that
    they only had a couple of wrong colour ones left. I said, "can you order
    me some silver ones?", he just laughed.....

    Funny thing is, I bought a 1970 model Triumph a few years later and
    parts are still being made and are generally cheaper and more accessable
    than Jappas half the age of the old Trumpy's.

    Shame yours is NOT a classic. hehe.

    Kimbo
     
    Kimbo, Feb 6, 2004
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  12. They had advised me on Kawasaki parts being not available 8 years ago. Next
    shop I tried (in Eliz Street), ordered the part and sent it to me.

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Feb 7, 2004
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  13. Black Bart

    GB Guest

    I'm an older bike rider too, but my bike is a 2003 model.

    G
     
    GB, Feb 7, 2004
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  14. Black Bart

    Black Bart Guest

    I forgot to mention that they were fully prepared to order me a choke cable
    Ok, my parts order came in and I get home and I'm looking through
    the bag for a part and I notice two cables in it. I couldn't get the
    throttle cable and the choke cable had to come from Japan. Should
    only be the speedo cable in there as I nixed the choke cable. I didn't
    have weeks to wait for it.

    I pull it out and it's a choke cable, which had to come from Japan.
    Fast boat indeed. I check the receipt and the cable has a value of
    $0.00 against it. I add it up and sure enough, they never charged me for it.
    At least some small good thing has come of all this.

    Bike is now about 90% done. Got the tyres on, chain & sprockets on,
    fresh coolant, fresh oil and filter, air filter, spark plugs, valve clearances,
    carbys cleaned out, HT leads checked and trimmed for good contact,
    new grips and choke cable fitted.

    Got it going yesterday and going from a bike that would take the full
    battery charge and then have to be jump started from a car for about
    half an hour to get it to start, to one that starts second or third attempt.
    Seeing as it was sitting idle for nearly 4 years, that's not too bad at all.

    Now I'm getting happier as the job's getting done rather than being
    dicked around and having my time wasted.

    All that's left is to fit new fork seals and oil, get the instrument mounts
    re-welded on the main fairing frame, get the fairing re-fitted and find
    a new muffler. Then it's off to get the carbs balanced and final tuning
    touches then get the roadworthy and get regged.

    Then to go for a good blurt.
     
    Black Bart, Feb 8, 2004
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