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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by SteveH, Jun 2, 2008.

  1. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    Just browsing ebay for Ducati panels, trying to find a cheapie to bolt
    onto the bike whilst I send my scuffed panel to be fixed and saw this:

    http://search.ebay.co.uk/310052753261

    Surely that's taking the piss more than a bit?

    Used panels seem to go for £25-£80 depending on condition.
     
    SteveH, Jun 2, 2008
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  2. SteveH

    antonye Guest

    Except that it's a new panel, and that's list price.

    I've bought a load of stuff off him (Lee) but everything
    is Ducati list price so be careful - for example, compare:
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310051296044
    to
    http://www.moto-racing.co.uk/item--...s-105-1502-20--Brembo+Bleed+Nipple+Cover.html

    BTW, you wanna get in quick on these:
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180249082225
     
    antonye, Jun 2, 2008
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  3. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    Oh aye, I know that.

    Eye watering price, even so.
    Ouch, that's one hell of a difference.
    No I don't.

    They're 900SS cans, which don't fit a 750SS without a lot of pissing
    about.
     
    SteveH, Jun 2, 2008
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  4. SteveH

    antonye Guest

    You mean unbolting the old cans and then refitting
    the new ones.

    They're identical. 750SS and 900SS have identical header
    outlets even though they have different part numbers
    for the headers.

    But then, what do I know, cos I only run 750SS headers
    with 900SSie cans on a 620ie engine...
     
    antonye, Jun 2, 2008
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  5. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    Erm, TOG bought a set of 900SS cans and they didn't fit his 750SS.

    Ahhh, here we go:

    http://groups.google.com/group/uk.rec.motorcycles/browse_thread/thread/e
    238b44c76b8070e/ac524974706466a0?lnk=gst&q=750SS+900SS+don%27t+fit#ac524
    974706466a0
     
    SteveH, Jun 2, 2008
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  6. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    SteveH, Jun 2, 2008
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  7. The headers are different. Same diameter, fractionally different shape.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 2, 2008
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  8. SteveH

    antonye Guest

    But the exit of the headers is in the same place
    and of the same size.

    But whatever.
     
    antonye, Jun 3, 2008
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  9. SteveH

    antonye Guest

    Well whatever, you waste your money. I know they'll
    fit because so far I've fitted three different sets
    of cans (900SSie, 900SS and 750SS) to two different
    sets of headers (750SS and 900SS), in two different
    frames (750SS and 900SS).

    But as I said up there ^^ you've had your bike for
    all of a week so you obviously know it all already.
     
    antonye, Jun 3, 2008
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  10. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    TOG has tried to fit 900SS cans, and they don't fit.

    I've searched the Ducatisti archive and found that 900SS cans don't fit.

    I'm not risking 200 quid on also finding out they don't fit.

    Interestingly, if you cross-reference the part number for them, they've
    been superceded by a set of cans that are listed to fit the 750SSie and
    possibly other SSie bikes, but not listed as a fitment for carb-fed
    750SSs.
     
    SteveH, Jun 3, 2008
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  11. SteveH

    wessie Guest

    :

    I think Steve needs to do a bit more research, especially when it comes to
    ancillary devices and their modus operandi.
     
    wessie, Jun 3, 2008
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  12. No, it isn't, and that's the point. 750SS headers are fractionally
    narrower because the back end of the bike is narrower.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 3, 2008
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  13. For a race bike, yes, no problem, and you can bend, hammer, and make up
    new brackets. Road bike, if you just want them to bolt straight on so
    you can go for a ride, it's a different kettle of poissons.

    900SS cans can be made to fit on 750SS headers, but they do need work.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 3, 2008
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  14. SteveH

    Nige Guest

    ;)
     
    Nige, Jun 3, 2008
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  15. SteveH

    antonye Guest

    Bending the (OEM) brackets slightly is all it takes, in my experience.
     
    antonye, Jun 3, 2008
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  16. SteveH

    ginge Guest

    wouldn't that rely on having a single-seat setup, rather than bolting
    from the pillion pegs?
     
    ginge, Jun 3, 2008
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  17. SteveH

    antonye Guest

    I don't understand this - what do you mean that the back end
    is narrower? The 750 uses the steel swingarm and a 5.5" rear
    wheel (same a the 600), but the overall dimensions are the same
    as the 900 back end with the ally swingarm and the 6" rear wheel.
    The hubs of the wheels are identical. I know this because I run
    a 5.5" rear wheel in an ally swingarm without any modifications.

    The early 900 frames are slightly wider at the engine mounts;
    we had to use a couple of 10mm spacers to fit the 600 engine
    into it, but the back end (what would be the rear subframe if
    it wasn't all one piece!) has the same mounting points. The
    seat and rear fairing are all the same part numbers except
    for decals, and our home-made mounting brackets fit both.
     
    antonye, Jun 3, 2008
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  18. SteveH

    antonye Guest

    True - I've only ever used the high-level cans which replace the
    pillion hangars with brackets. The standard cans are dreadful though
    as the short pipe between the header and the can is the first thing
    to touch down when leaning it over.

    I wonder if you could mount the +pillion cans on the inside of the
    hangar rather than the outside (or vice versa) as this would give
    you an extra 10mm to play with.

    The headers are pretty easy to move about as well. I spent about
    an hour trying to get the end cans level as there's quite a bit of
    play in the headers when everything is loosened off. The rear
    cylinder has it's own seperate short header into the other part
    and has quite a long joint to it, hence giving lots of movement.

    But yes, it does require some fiddling!
     
    antonye, Jun 3, 2008
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  19. SteveH

    TOG@Toil Guest

    Hm. Whatever. I was assured for certain by Ducati UK's spares bod that
    if you put 900SS headers on a 750 (and they bolt straight on) then the
    cans won't line up precisely with the mounts on the pillion pegs.

    However, I'm not entirely sure now what happens if you try and put
    900SS cans on 750 headers.
     
    TOG@Toil, Jun 3, 2008
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  20. SteveH

    frag Guest

    Just made a best offer of £5 for it.
     
    frag, Jun 3, 2008
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