Tiger split rims

So Dad's Tiger goes in for an MOT prior to selling to make stable space for
the Quadzilla[1] and it fails...

OK the headlights are more Clarence[2] than Tiger, but that's easily fixed,
more of a problem is that both wheel rims have cracked between the spoke
holes!

I've never seen this on any road bike before and neither have the guys doing
the MOT.
It's a '96 model and only done 23k miles with no signs of major abuse.
It's been sitting tucked-up in a nice dry garage for the last two years.

See http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/davepauline/tiger/

Have any of you seen this sort of failure before?
Is it common for Tigers?
Is it common for D.I.D rims?

I'm thinking of pulling the wheels off and taking them down to Hagons in
Hainault to have a new set laced-on.

Hagons put new rims on my old Honda CB77 back in the late '70s and on my
Morini in the mid-80's, both of which they did a good job, and they're
fairly local.

Anyone with more recent good/bad experience of these guys?
http://www.hagon-shocks.co.uk/HagWheel.htm



[1] See thread "Quadzilla vs the Tiger"
[2] the cross-eyed Lion

 

Somebody's not been hosing it down after riding on salty roads, haven't
they. Salty water's got into the rim down the spoke threads & eaten the
alloy away.

Tiger rims normally show the most corrosion at the point where they're
welded - can't say I've seen one that bad around the spokes before.

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Ouch. Were these alloy rims or steel? I assume alloy? I've seen alloy
rims corrode, from the inside (the old Hondas CB250RS was an offender)
but never crack.

As for Hagon: two days ago I collected my rebuilt wheels for the Honda
SL125 I've been restoring. Lovely job. Cheaper than Central Wheel in
the Midlands, but it's still a bit of a wallet hit. New rims, polished
hubs, stainless spokes, new rim tapes and new inner tubes came in at
£330. I'd imagine spokes and labour will be the same no matter what
the wheel is, but Triumph size rims will add a bit to the bill.
Turnaround is a month or so.

Oh, and they close at 1pm on Saturdays. Guess who trogged out to
Hainault a fortnight ago and got there at 1.30?

Anyway, yes, Hagon is strongly recommended.

Put the new tyres I've been hoarding on the new wheels yesterday, and
bolted them onto the bike. My, it don't half look smart now, but then
it's got NOS seat and forks plus brand new wheels and tyres on it, so
it bloody well should. Next thing is the silencer, which has *just*
started to blow from a crack, but luckily I've got a superb unit saved
from a donor bike I bought. It runs a treat. All it really needs is
new rear shocks.

 

Ouch. Were these alloy rims or steel? I assume alloy? I've seen alloy
rims corrode, from the inside (the old Hondas CB250RS was an offender)
but never crack.

As for Hagon: two days ago I collected my rebuilt wheels for the Honda
SL125 I've been restoring. Lovely job. Cheaper than Central Wheel in
the Midlands, but it's still a bit of a wallet hit. New rims, polished
hubs, stainless spokes, new rim tapes and new inner tubes came in at
£330. I'd imagine spokes and labour will be the same no matter what
the wheel is, but Triumph size rims will add a bit to the bill.
Turnaround is a month or so.

Oh, and they close at 1pm on Saturdays. Guess who trogged out to
Hainault a fortnight ago and got there at 1.30?

Anyway, yes, Hagon is strongly recommended.

Put the new tyres I've been hoarding on the new wheels yesterday, and
bolted them onto the bike. My, it don't half look smart now, but then
it's got NOS seat and forks plus brand new wheels and tyres on it, so
it bloody well should. Next thing is the silencer, which has *just*
started to blow from a crack, but luckily I've got a superb unit saved
from a donor bike I bought. It runs a treat. All it really needs is
new rear shocks.


Thanks for the recommendation.

Don't Hagons do replacement shocks for the SL125?

They might have done you a "job lot" price...

 

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Central Wheels are handy for me so I have used them a couple of times.
There used to be a really cheap wheel builder in Smethwick. In fact a
quick google suggests he might still be there (Phillips). Used them once
years ago and they were OK.

Certainly very helpful for shocks to your own spec. Can't vouch for
their wheel building.

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I had to go out to Hainault from Westminster on the tube once, years ago.
It was the sort of journey Jules Verne would have written about. I think
Birmingham's closer.

 

They do, yes, but they'd have to build them up specially. It's not an
off-the-shelf item, because they're surprisingly slim. They quoted
£115 a pair, which is OK, but I'll cast around Kempton Park autojumble
this coming weekend first.

 

When I dropped my old wheels in, I went though town, and out on the
A12. I couldn't believe how far it was, either. Nor how bloody long it
took. Now I go round the M25, and in on the A127/A12. It takes an
hour, door to door.

 

I've seen that failure on bicycle rims. It means the wheel has been
laced too tight and the tension is pulling the nipples through the
rim. Normally a sign of an inexperienced wheel builder who keeps
tightening spokes in an effort to get it true, rather than loosening
and tightening.

New rims time and get them built properly. Central Wheel in Coleshill
near Birmingham are supposed to be good.

 

Dunno what part of the country the OP is in, but I've had *loads* of
wheels built by Dick Waldron, just outside of Milton Keynes. Cheaper
than Hagons usually, and excellent quality. I'm not sure he's still
going tho'.

Contact details can be found on this page
http://www.realclassic.co.uk/tbird030409.html

 

Simon Wilson says...

£1300? I rebuilt the SpazzTrakka for a grand less than that, including a
rebore.

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