Tiger vs V-Strom

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by BGN, Oct 18, 2005.

  1. BGN

    BGN Guest

    I've just got back from a two hour test ride of a Triumph Tiger and a
    Suzuki V-Strom (DL1000)

    I'd put together a list of bikes that I'd be interested in trying out
    before a possible new/used bike purchase next year and the Tiger had
    come out top on paper for everything I wanted.

    After a quick phone call to Robinson's Foundry in Canterbury I was
    booked in for the test rides and I made my way on the ER-5 hoping for
    a dry afternoon.

    I got on an '02 Tiger (orange, unfortunatly) and pissed off through
    Canterbury city centre and on to the B2068 until the old Stonegate
    Farm area and then back through Stelling Minnis.

    The Tiger was the right size for me but the ride was uneventful and if
    I'd used it for much more than an hour I'd have become bored.

    I arrived back at the Foundry and swapped it for the V-Strom, which
    was always an outsider and after 10 minutes of going through the city
    I was almost ready to turn back because I hated it. It seemed under
    powered and unstable.

    It seemed unfair to not give it a good go so I slowly made my way to
    the outskirts and then on to the B2068 and then kicked it down into
    2nd gear and bombed it past a load of cars, threw it round a few bends
    and really let the engine go. It's lovely at high revs and the two
    OEM exhausts sounded quite fruity. Oh, the noise is lovely.

    The Tiger performs well at low revs and seems to be a more upright
    ride - I wasn't confident of throwing it around bends as it seemed to
    dive at the front. The V-Strom is very fond of the higher revving
    stuff. The 'Strom seems like my kind of bike, I never expected it to
    be. It's more compatible with my more revvy preferred style and with
    its willingness to be thrown around corners it is now my fave on the
    list.

    I will get another test ride of both of them and some other hopefuls
    next year, but does anyone have any observations relating to the Tiger
    or 'Strom that I've missed?

    Thanks.
     
    BGN, Oct 18, 2005
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  2. In uk.rec.motorcycles, BGN amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:
    Don't discount other bikes, even if you think they look cramped - You've
    got nothing to lose if you're only testing them for an hour.
     
    Whinging Courier, Oct 18, 2005
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  3. BGN

    dwb Guest

    Yes - you won't get one and the gay motorcycle thing won't continue.
    And the lower stuff.
    Eh? You were practicallly drooling on it at EOSM.
    Do be careful...
    That it'll be just as easy, if not easier (because it's higher heavier and
    differently balanced) to crash than your ER-5 :)
     
    dwb, Oct 18, 2005
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  4. BGN

    CT Guest

    dwb wrote:
    [of V-Strom]
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Is that PC-speak for "top heavy"? :eek:)
     
    CT, Oct 18, 2005
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  5. BGN

    dwb Guest

    Oh and one other thing - have you checked insurance yet?

    The Strom's only a group 13 - but it is a litre bike (yeah yeah) and with a
    new shiny licence and no NCB you may find it a tad eye watering.
     
    dwb, Oct 18, 2005
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  6. BGN

    BGN Guest

    It is a gay motorcycle. It had that look about it. The position of
    the crash bars means it's meant to be grabbed hold of in moments of
    passion.
    It seemed unsure of the lower stuff, when compared to the Tiger, at
    least.
    It isn't practical on paper so I had pretty much discounted it, but I
    do like it.
    It felt far more stable than the ER-5.
     
    BGN, Oct 18, 2005
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  7. BGN

    BGN Guest

    <checks DL1000 fully comp>

    *COUGH*

    <checks TPF&T>

    *COUGH*

    <checks DL650 fully comp>

    *COUGH*

    <checks TPF&T>

    Hmm, that's only a little more than I'm paying for the ER-5
     
    BGN, Oct 18, 2005
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  8. BGN

    dwb Guest

    Kind of - it's not top heavy but it is different so somethnig like an ER-5
    :)
     
    dwb, Oct 18, 2005
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  9. BGN

    dwb Guest

    How much? :)
    How much? :)
    I wouldn't bother with the 650 - it'll feel underpowered.
     
    dwb, Oct 18, 2005
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  10. BGN

    Pip Guest

    Pip, Oct 18, 2005
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  11. BGN

    BGN Guest

    tOn Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:22:26 +0100, "dwb"
    £1800 without European cover
    £1200 without European cover
    I am currently using a *tiny* ER-5 @ 50 horses. The DL650 is likely
    to be a better fit for little old me @ 66 horses.

    ....But I don't really want to insure a bike that costs £3k+ TPF&T, and
    there aren't many more horses in the DL650 than the ER-5, but it is a
    BGN sized machine.

    Am I back to square one? I'm not looking for some mean uber powerful
    bike, just one that I can fit on properly. <sigh>
     
    BGN, Oct 18, 2005
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  12. BGN

    BGN Guest

    Double .sig HORROR.
    I think it's saying something similar to me too in all honesty. Oh,
    but I so want a bike that I can fit on!
     
    BGN, Oct 18, 2005
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  13. BGN

    platypus Guest

    platypus, Oct 18, 2005
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  14. BGN

    Ginge Guest

    A few more crashes and your legs could be at least 6 inches shorter.
     
    Ginge, Oct 18, 2005
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  15. BGN

    BGN Guest

    That style does indeed suit me height wise (I've had a mini run on
    prawn's Ténéré) but the bike isn't in the style I prefer.

    The ER-5 isn't specifically a bike that I lust after, I've got one and
    it's quite fun; it's just a bit small.

    I'm sure the XR600 is fun too, but I can't see myself on one, even
    though they're the right height. Take prawn's Ténéré for example,
    it's really good fun but it's not my style. I like things to look a
    bit more... roady not off-roady.
     
    BGN, Oct 18, 2005
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  16. BGN

    BGN Guest

    Then I can be as tall as you.
     
    BGN, Oct 18, 2005
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  17. BGN

    TimP Guest


    Therein lies the problem. Personally I think you should bite the bullet
    and get something you actually want to ride, and insure it TPO until
    premiums become more sensible. FOAD chain is, obviously, mandatory if
    you go the TPO route. And also NFC :)
     
    TimP, Oct 18, 2005
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  18. BGN

    Ginge Guest

    But not as stylish. Sorry.
     
    Ginge, Oct 18, 2005
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  19. In uk.rec.motorcycles, BGN amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:
    What about one of these?

    http://www.mcnews.com.au/Wallpaper/KTM/2004/Duke_990/KTM_990
    _Duke_Black_RHS_1024.jpg
     
    Whinging Courier, Oct 18, 2005
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  20. BGN

    David Mahon Guest

    Being about to do my test, I thought I'd check out some cover. I had a go
    on bennetts website.

    I seem to be getting cheaper quotes than I thought:

    Age 35
    Provisional licence for about 15 years
    FULL licence for 0 years (pretending/hoping I pass)
    2003 SV650S value 2500 (wishful thinking)
    No NCB
    1 car accident 2.5 years ago (dog ran out, I hit kerb and smashed suspension).

    Quoted £339 fully comp!

    The DL1000 was £450.

    I am answering it right, aren't I?

    It asks:

    Have I passed CBT?

    then

    How long have you held your motorcycling licence?

    followed by

    In the last 5 years how many years have you been riding with a full licence?


    To which I answered Yes, >9 and 0 respectively.
     
    David Mahon, Oct 18, 2005
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