Time for a new one, but out of touch

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by archon, Oct 6, 2003.

  1. archon

    archon Guest

    I think I might start looking for a new bike, but I'm out of touch. I
    haven't read a copy of two wheels, or kept in touch with the bike world in
    any other way, for over a year. So I have returned here for opinions after a
    loooooooooong break from the group.
    I'm currently riding a 95 Honda CB750. It's a nice reliable, reasonably
    attractive machine, but I think I want something smaller. It's a big heavy
    bike, simply more metal than I need. It's also a hard bike to find in
    Australia, although parts haven't been a problem. Prices have though. I have
    no idea how much the thing is worth anymore. Bought it for 7k about, what, 3
    years ago, and I haven't put much on the clock. I suppose that makes it
    worth somewhere around 4 or 5k now.
    I don't want to lay out much cash on whatever I get to replace it, but I am
    very open to possibilities. My previous bike was a GPX250, so
    faired/unfaired, sports/tourer/standard, whatever. The last time I remember
    reading about in the bike world was the gaining popularity of the
    half-faired singles and twins. How'd they work out? If you had 4-6k to spend
    on a bike, anything other than a cruiser or off-road, for occasional use
    around the city and the odd weekend rec ride, what would you be looking at?
    And please, one that comes in under 200 kilos :) A late 90's CBR600 looks
    like it might be a good bet. Or are there now more options between the 250s
    and the 600s?
    Oh and one other thing: no rainbow machines. In fact, plain black or black
    and grey highly preferable.
     
    archon, Oct 6, 2003
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  2. You are in luck!

    There is a lady selling a BLACK hornet (CB600F2) here currently.

    You lucky man you.

    Hammo

    BTW, welcome back
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Oct 6, 2003
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  3. archon

    archon Guest

    Aye, there's a possibility.
    Ta :)
     
    archon, Oct 6, 2003
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  4. archon

    paulh Guest

    Wellllllllll.....take last years models and increment their number by
    one year. Nothing changes that much...its evolution rather than
    revolution.
    I dont think that late 90s 600s have changed much in the last year.
    Since last year? not many...


    paulh
     
    paulh, Oct 6, 2003
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  5. archon

    John Littler Guest

    Hornet 600, Bandit 600, Fazer 600. Monster 600 or 750 (might not make
    your price point) TRX 850, TDM850, SV650, CBR600F2, YZF600. GSX750F.
    VTR1000 (prob too dear). VFR750 (dunno about colours)

    JL
    96 Bandit 12
    89 KR1
     
    John Littler, Oct 7, 2003
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  6. archon

    archon Guest

    Nice listing and seems to encompass everything I was looking at. I rather
    like the SV650s although a second hand model might be hard to get a hold of
    so early in the piece. I haven't had a sit on one yet but I'm also concerned
    about the height, or lack of it, as I am about 6 and 2. Hornets and 1996 -
    1999 CBR600s also look about right. I think I'd go the CBR over the CB if I
    could find one at the right price.
     
    archon, Oct 7, 2003
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  7. archon

    John Littler Guest

    Unfaired is cheaper than the S - going rate for the first models seems to be
    close to your price point (how solid is that 5 can you stretch to 6 ?)
    I'm on the other end of the spectrum so no idea, can't help. Friend with a
    hornet 250 (same frame as the 600) is 6'6 or 6'7 or something equally stupidly
    lanky, seems to fit OK.

    TDM850 would be an excellent choice for the long of leg I'd imagine. What's an
    early BMW GS worth I wonder ?

    JL
     
    John Littler, Oct 7, 2003
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  8. archon

    archon Guest

    It's a matter of choice rather than finances, and I think I like the S
    enough to lay out a little more. Heck, if I thought I could find a second
    hand speed 4 I'd be happy to part with a good deal more :)
    That would be a sight.
    Oooh, gee, you're pushing my limits now :p
     
    archon, Oct 7, 2003
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  9. archon

    archon Guest

    Well I've gone looking for SV650S's. Saw some lurvely speciments at
    sv650.org. The black one really took my fancy. But of course, the black one
    didn't come to Australia. Yeh, the blue one ain't bad, and it is the only
    colour I would go for (other than black), and it is a *very* nice blue. But
    still, DAMN. I suppose I could still get lucky with a black one that someone
    brought over, but then I also suppose that I'd be waiting a long time for
    parts if I ever managed to damage one of the black bits. DAMN.
    It's funny, I've never seen a black bike that I didn't think looked good.
    Everyone at work agreed that the black looked nicer too. It seems a campaign
    is in order... "all new vehicles must come in black in addition to any other
    available colours".
     
    archon, Oct 9, 2003
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  10. archon

    CrazyCam Guest

    archon wrote:

    It may come as a surprise to you, but you can actually buy tins full of
    this stuff called paint.

    You can buy all sorts of colours, even black.

    You can then either apply the paint to whatever bits of the bike you
    fancy painted, or, pay someone to apply the paint.

    There is actually no law that sez you must leave a motorcycle the colour
    that it left the factory.

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Oct 9, 2003
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  11. In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:03:49 +1000
    There does appear to be a law about yellow and blue though....

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Oct 9, 2003
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  12. That has 2 effects... 1 it makes one significantly poorer if one can't spray
    paint, and 2 it makes it seem as if the bike has been dropped and resprayed
    which reduces the eventual trade in value (it may not reduce private sale
    value).


    Geoff and Jodie
     
    Geoff and Jodie, Oct 9, 2003
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  13. archon

    conehead Guest

    Mine is black. That's the colour it was painted. Yours could be black too,
    if you painted it that colour.
     
    conehead, Oct 10, 2003
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  14. archon

    archon Guest

    Yes, these are the effects I am worried about. Plus I have heard that even a
    professional respray won't have the same quality of finish as the original
    factory job.
    In any case, I will trawl through google for old postings about bike
    resprayers in Sydney.
     
    archon, Oct 10, 2003
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  15. archon

    archon Guest

    I thought there was a law that applied to red actually. Something to do with
    acceleration or top speed IIRC.... ;)
     
    archon, Oct 10, 2003
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  16. archon

    Nev.. Guest

    You're in luck. I have a 2002 model CBR1100XX _BLACK_.
    Far cheaper per cc than the SV650 you're looking at.
    And as a bonus it's a Honda not a Suzuki.

    Nev..
    Black '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Oct 10, 2003
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  17. archon

    John Littler Guest

    Unfortunately the fashion police are a toothless arm of the judiciary and are
    only empowered to give you a good scolding - no laws are yet in place !

    JL
    (If I was dictator however .... :)
     
    John Littler, Oct 10, 2003
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  18. archon

    CrazyCam Guest

    Both blue and yellow bikes started from the factory as blue bikes.

    I only added the yellow....and, the councilling seems to have worked,
    and I've stopped.

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Oct 10, 2003
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  19. archon

    CrazyCam Guest

    <shrug> If someone _wants_ a bike in a particular colour, paint is a
    valid option.

    It is only money.

    To off-set the possible drop in trade-in value, if a bike is resprayed
    to a non-factory scheme, the owner is under less pressure to trade it
    for the latest graphics anyway. ;-)

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Oct 10, 2003
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  20. I didn't actually say it wasn't, just that it was an option with some
    negatives you hadn't mentioned.
    Of course *grin*
    Or one could look at it as "backed into a corner, and not able to trade, by
    an effect they weren't aware of" ;-)


    Geoff and Jodie
     
    Geoff and Jodie, Oct 10, 2003
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