Time to face the facts

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Lozzo, Apr 30, 2006.

  1. Lozzo

    dwb Guest

    And yet went from a sports bike to a "dual sport" (ug).

    1) I think it looks better than the Tiger (honestly. The Tiger is
    horrible IMO :) )
    2) I wanted another Suzuki which ties into ...
    3) I have a great dealer 5 minutes walk away which means it's a doddle
    to get servicing/parts/talk crap.
     
    dwb, May 2, 2006
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  2. Lozzo

    dwb Guest

    The fuelling is okay actually - it's just the nature of the power
    delivery plus engine braking etc - I think it's mostly a big
    (agricultural) twin thing rather than specific to the V-Strom.
    Seat height didn't enter into it really.

    As I mentioned to Krusty I wanted another Suzuki and the Strom seemed
    the most appropriate. If I'd had more money/bit more NCB I probably
    would have got a Busa TBH :)
     
    dwb, May 2, 2006
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  3. Lozzo

    Krusty Guest

    Horrible term innit.
    I agree entirely. The Tiger's the far better bike of course, but the
    post-98 ones are indeed minging.
    See? *see?* "I don't like change".
    A feeble reason for choosing a bike.

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  4. Lozzo

    muddy Guest

    Is it injected or carbs?
    FI.

    One of the things that impressed me most about the GSXR1000 when I first
    rode one was how utterly bob-on the fuelling was at low revs/ small
    throttle openings. A U-turn was a doddle, as opposed to Honda's FI at
    the time, which seemed very snatchy by comparison. I guess a twin is
    slightly trickier to fuel smoothly though?[/QUOTE]

    I don't have a problem with mine.
    For me it was cost.
     
    muddy, May 2, 2006
  5. Lozzo

    dwb Guest

    I didn't say it was a problem :) I just said it was a little rough
    round the edges.
     
    dwb, May 2, 2006
  6. Lozzo

    dwb Guest

    And it doesn't MEAN anything either - which makes it worse.
    And the Strom has much better headlights :)
    Well... true. I did however buy a french car having never owned any
    french made transport in my life prior to that.

    And, when/if I ever have enough money for another bike I suspect it may
    be much more of a choice (Kwak/Yam/Suz most likely).
    Well it is and it isn't. It is very handy being able to drop off the
    bike, pop into the shops and be home (on foot) 5 minutes later :)



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    dwb, May 2, 2006
  7. Lozzo

    ginge Guest

    I'm not so sure it's a feeble excuse.

    I'd quite like a Ducati, but their nearest dealer is now 45 miles away,
    and TBH I can't be bothered riding that far for servicing, and having to
    waste a day doing so.

    It's 15 miles from here to the nearest Yamaha dealership, which isn't so
    bad.. i'm sure I could work around getting a loan bike and dropping in
    early before work, or something..

    Then again, Suzuki, Kawasaki, or Honda all have dealerships within a
    couple of miles of home, so they've a doddle to get serviced and walk or
    grab a bus back, which is what I do once or twice a year with the ZRX.
     
    ginge, May 2, 2006
  8. Lozzo

    Krusty Guest

    You have my sympathies. Having failed miserably at the two jobs I've
    attempted on SO's Kangoo[1], a French cage will never find its way into
    my ownership.

    [1] Anyone know how to get the effing rear brake hubs off[2][3]?
    [2] Not that I'd have to if the shoes could be adjusted through a hole
    in the back-plate, like normal cars. But no, that's far too fucking
    sensible for the cunting French isn't it.
    [3] The other job was an oil change - which needs some special spazzy
    spanner for the sump plug coz a normal bolt, or even 3/8" or 1/2"
    square hole's far too fucking easy.

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  9. Lozzo

    Ace Guest

    Jude's Peugeot hasn't had a single thing go wrong with it.

    Except when I left the roof down through two days of torrential rain.
    It took _days_ before the electric windows would work properly again.

    <snip failed jobs>

    Just take it to a dealer, FFS.

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    Ace, May 2, 2006
  10. Lozzo

    dwb Guest

    Well that has a stupid name, even for a french car.

    TBH I will hand my Megane to the nice mechanic to sort out should
    anything go amiss. - I have no interest in attempting to service it at
    the moment (not with 18 months left on the warranty :) )
     
    dwb, May 2, 2006
  11. Lozzo

    Krusty Guest

    I don't mind things going wrong with it - after all it is a white van
    with 100k miles & no service history. What I do object to is their
    making it so difficult to work on. Actually I forgot about the first
    job I had to do on it - changing the throttle cable. Jesus Fucking
    Christ!
    Pah, bloody French electrics. I've left the MV out in the rain loads of
    times without the windows failing, & that's Italian!
    That's where it's going tomorrow. Hopefully they'll burn it.

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  12. Lozzo

    Krusty Guest

    Not trolling, no. I s'pose that's ok if you're the sort who just rides
    it then throws it a dealer when anything needs doing, but I have
    absolutely zero faith left in any dealer to get anything right.

    Any parts you can get from a dealer can be bought mail-order & arrive
    the following day, & UKRM's here if you want to talk crap, so that only
    leaves servicing as a possible reason. For me, that's not enough reason
    to choose one make over t'other unless you have absolutely no
    preference - which seems unlikely. After all, the bike's probably gonna
    spend 364 days of the year with you & 1 day with the dealer. Buying a
    bike that isn't your first choice just to make that 1 day a little
    easier seems daft to me.

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  13. Lozzo

    Ace Guest

    On modern machinery, I wouldn't dream of doing anything myself. Too
    complex, too many special tools, too much to get wrong, too little
    time, too much money, etc. Dealers generally are pretty good, but
    "having a good, local" one is an absolute boon.
    It's as much for peace of mind, in case stuff does go wrong, though.
    When I bought the Sprint ST the nearest dealer was Fowlers in
    Northampton, some 25 miles away. I had a number of recalls on it, plus
    a couple of other problems, and was doing a mileage that needed about
    three services in the first year.

    So the distance was a right PITA - had there been any other serious
    contenders (for bike purchase) in the frame it might well have made
    enough difference for me to have gone for a different model from a
    local dealer.

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    Ace, May 2, 2006
  14. We all do that (buy a French car I mean). Only once though. Or at least
    - those of us who learn from experience only do it once!

    Phil.
     
    Phil Launchbury, May 2, 2006
  15. Lozzo

    RealMart Guest

    Typical measured rearwheel horsepower for the old Fazer 1000 seems to
    be about 120 to 125bhp stock, 125 to 130bhp (and a much healthier
    midrange) with a slip-on can and jet kit, and over 135 with various
    airbox and inlet stub modifications. I think the new ones make about
    10bhp more at the back wheel than the old ones out of the box.

    The engine is a generation newer than the ZRX and Bandit, and feels it.
    Whether this is good or bad is down to personal opinion.
     
    RealMart, May 2, 2006
  16. Lozzo

    Hog Guest

    Like I'd nick the rodents' leftovers
     
    Hog, May 2, 2006
  17. Lozzo

    Adie Guest

    its ok he wont get mine out of the garage as there's two bikes in the
    way, a HUGE pile of sand and several blocks of bricks.
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  18. Lozzo

    bd_juju Guest

    TLS had handling issues due to the daft rotary rear damper, TLR

    Ancient history.

    So what you're saying is that it's not squidly enough. Thought the
    topic was something that's more comfortable to ride than a race replica
    & is somewhat fun under 120mph...
    Eye of the beholder & all that. At least an SV can pull the skin off
    pudding.. As I said, if aircooled Ducs are being considered, max hp is
    clearly not a factor.


    cds
     
    bd_juju, May 2, 2006
  19. Lozzo

    Lozzo Guest

    Phil Launchbury said...
    Some of us never do[1].

    <Proud>

    [1] Had a few company cars that were French, and most were troublesome.
     
    Lozzo, May 2, 2006
  20. Lozzo

    Lozzo Guest

    Champ said...
    I agree totally. I currently own 2 Suzukis and have one of the best
    Yamaha and Triumph dealers in the country within sight of my front gate.
    I always go to them first for any help or parts, no matter what make of
    bike I have and they have never disappointed. Flitwick Motorcycles have
    been the most helpful dealership I have ever dealt with in 28 years of
    riding.

    When it comes to buying a new bike I will give them the first chance to
    supply whatever marque/model it is I choose.
     
    Lozzo, May 2, 2006
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