Timo Geusch left the building an hour ago

Discussion in 'Classic Motorcycles' started by The Older Gentleman, Jul 5, 2009.

  1. On his newly acquired Morini 350 Sport.

    It looks gorgeous.

    It has some issues.

    I'll let Timo carry on from here :)
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 5, 2009
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Well, I've made it home without having to call out CN's breakdown
    service. I see this as a good omen so far. It runs OK - given that it's
    done around 850 miles since a top end rebuild I didn't give it too much
    beanage and motorways are the usual annoying slog but out on the
    backroads it demonstrates that it's quite a capable little
    bike. Fortunately I had the road from Sissinghurst to Biddenden to
    myself so I could go play a little. They were built for these roads
    :). The seat is bloody hard and I had forgotten just how small these
    are.

    As to the issues TOG mentions, the list so far is:
    - It has an annoying backfire at idle and low revs. That goes away at
    higher revs and supposedly has only been there since an "expert" had a
    go at the carbs. Go figure. Given that one of the elbows hadn't been put
    back into the air box correctly, I'll better check the whole intake
    system. The engine isn't quite as 'sharp' as I'd like it to be, but the
    only other early Sport engine I can compare it to was the one in my Dart
    and that had gasflowed heads, which made a massive difference.
    - The kickstart lever slips over too far and can jam under the brake
    lever. Very annoying but it looks like there is a technique to it which
    prevents the lever from jamming.
    - The clutch needs adjusting properly. Just riding from the chateau down
    to my place stretched the cable far enough to triple the free play, with
    predictable consequences to the gear shift
    - Someone's been at the electrics. Oh joy. With the usual domestic screw
    connectors and all. Oh, and my personal pet hate, the preinsulated crimp
    shit.
    - Front has got a 100/90 on, which IMHO is too big and it does feel
    overtyred. Not to mention that it's been put on backwards.
    - Marzzocchis might be original (well, these aren't, they look like
    they're new but they were OEM fitment) but very good they aren't.
    - Silly little mini indicators (in fake carbon fibre, no less) need to
    go ASAP. Especially as they're on holiday anyway. And the rear light
    needs changing back to the original. Fortunately I have both the
    original indicators and original rear light with number plate carrier
    - The tank has a few "bubbles" - boils would be a better description -
    under the fairly recent paint. Looks like I'll have to let Beav lose on
    that tank. This was mentioned in the description so it didn't exactly
    come as a surprise.
    - I think it's overbraked with the dual front disks. Given that the rear
    brake lever is at an impossible angle the brakes feel even less balanced
    because the rear is pretty unusable.

    All in all I would say it's a 90% bike - someone has thrown a whole heap
    of money at it and it clearly shows, but they haven't spent the time and
    money to sort out the usual post-resto niggles.

    I guess I'll be on the blower to NLM in the next couple of days to order
    a few parts (gaskets and a set of standard carb jets) and reserve a
    Sunday morning for a little fettle.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jul 5, 2009
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    AW Guest

    I agree that these just don't need a dual disk. Mine wears a floating
    disk, a 250C Grimeca master cylinder via a braided line, and standard
    EBC pads and it works really well.

    Sounds good. Have to introduce it to my one some time,
     
    AW, Jul 5, 2009
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  4. That's my take on it. It looks utterly gorgeous, and the bills I saw
    totalled over £1200.

    But the indicators are those horrible mini ones made of fake carbon
    fibre. And don't work. And the seller decided to fit them, while leaving
    the horrible CEV tin switches in place.

    The electrics are a bit of a mess.

    And then there are the kickstart issues, and the fact that (IMHO) the
    pilot jets or settings are wrong.

    That said, for slightly over £2k, it ws (again IMHO) a bargain.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 5, 2009
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    The proverbial plank seat is a small price to pay for the grin factor on
    the twisties.

    Presumably it has the rubber elbows between carbs and heads ? Check that
    those are also a good tight fit. Didn't the Dart have the 'M' cam rather
    than an 'S' - or did yours have an early Sport motor 'retrofitted'?
    Sir needs and L5 and 28 mm carbs.
    A feature of fitting Tarozzi rearsets (IIRC it has those)? NLM do an
    extension block to increase the offset on the folding kickstart.
    Get it 'shimmed' while you are at it.
    Ah. I have a feeling the former could even have been used as OEM. Rear
    light connection in the case of my 2C.
    For the trade mark pin sharp handling a 90/90 is required.
    Better than the Paolis on a 250 !
    Tarozzis again. It tool me ages to get the rear on mine to work
    reasonably, but it is strictly to pass scrutineering as far as I'm
    concerned.
    Dig out the Morgan carb tune and have fun.

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    Pete Fisher, Jul 5, 2009
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    AW Guest


    Aye, mine was OK with the standard disk and the 250 m/c, the floating
    disk has transformed it. Good feel and plenty of power.
     
    AW, Jul 5, 2009
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  7. The Older Gentleman

    Pete Fisher Guest

    Having seen the message on the Morini list I realise that your Dart did
    have a sport motor.

    IME a general blunting of sharpness can often be as a result of a
    sub-optimal spark. I fiddled about with the carburation on mine for
    ages. It ran OK, but not as well as it did when in its prime. I think
    Stuart at NLM is correct in saying that until you have a tip-top
    ignition system you'll never get the best out of a wee-vee, even if it
    starts reasonably well. The heart of the system is the ignition charging
    coil on the stator. Low resistance in the windings is the root of much
    poor running evil.


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    Pete Fisher, Jul 5, 2009
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    AW Guest

    i've got Ikon Dial-a-ride-a-likes which are excellent but they're
    pricey.
     
    AW, Jul 5, 2009
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    At least the rear elbow doesn't fit into the airbox very well. When I
    checked it more or less didn't fit at all...
    It had an early Sport engine.
    Sir tries to avoid that sort of expenditure at the moment :).
    I'll have a word with them then. I'm not sure if that'll improve matters
    much because the problem is that the kickstart lever (which isn't an
    original anyway) goes over the fully folded out position and only when
    it goes past it, it'll jam.
    I'll keep that in mind.
    No, they're definitely not OEM (I've seen Morinis with unmolested
    electrics).
    's wot I thought. I'm also not too sure about the rear tyre. According
    to some of the stuff I read that should be a 4.00 and it's got a 3.50 on
    it at the moment.
    That they may be, but they're more or less a hardtail conversion kit.
    Fair enough. In my case the lever will have to come up by almost an inch
    in order to make it useful.
    That's the plan :).
     
    Timo Geusch, Jul 6, 2009
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  10. The Older Gentleman

    Timo Geusch Guest

    I'll measure that but that's clearly not what I needed to hear...

    When NLM did the top end rebuild they already changed one of the
    transducers so I guess the ignition wasn't too clever at that point.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jul 6, 2009
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  11. The Older Gentleman

    Timo Geusch Guest

    TBH I don't think a new set of Marzocchis are that cheap either.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jul 6, 2009
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  12. Heh. That's what I told him I thought it ought to have!
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 6, 2009
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    Timo @ Work Guest

    Fortunately the Laverda could do with new tyres anyway and that takes
    a 100/90 front. At least that way I don't have to dispose of a brand
    new 100/90 but just migrate it from one Borrani to another one.
     
    Timo @ Work, Jul 9, 2009
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    Adie Guest

    I bought Avon Road Riders in that size for the LC (though it was a
    rear with a 90/90 front).
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    Adie, Jul 9, 2009
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    IIRC the one on the Morini is a Road Rider, too. Looks like it's a
    decent tyre but just too wide for the Morini.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jul 9, 2009
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  16. The Older Gentleman

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Looks better, though (IMHO).
    Sounds like a plan.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jul 12, 2009
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  17. The Older Gentleman

    AW Guest

    Timo Geusch  wrote:
    Single disks do lok a bit unbalanced, but more in keeping with the
    era. Maybe.

    Maybe that TOG would want to join in...

    .....Ebay item 270424732188 looks likely
     
    AW, Jul 12, 2009
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  18. The Older Gentleman

    Timo Geusch Guest

    That it does. It's also less likely to overwhelm the front suspension.
    Heh. There must be a nest of them in Bath as mine came from there as
    well...
     
    Timo Geusch, Jul 12, 2009
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    AW Guest

    <Pulls bait out of the water>

    He's not biting, is he?
     
    AW, Jul 13, 2009
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  20. The Older Gentleman

    Timo Geusch Guest

    We'd probably have to use a 400/4 as bait...
     
    Timo Geusch, Jul 13, 2009
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