Timo goes green. Very green.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Timo Geusch, Aug 29, 2003.

  1. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    So green in fact, that I was worried I would get pulled by JP for being
    excessively green.

    What happened? Well, I dropped the Sprint off at Jack Lilley's for its
    service yesterday and the nice young lady behind the counter handed me
    the keys to a nice, shiny, new, green Speed Triple.

    Of course, fives minutes after I set off in the direction of work the
    heavens opened so it wasn't exactly the best time to get aquainted
    with someone else's bike, especially if you've just signed a piece of
    paper that suggests you would pay the owner up to two grand if you
    lobbed the bike.

    So I wobble around the first corner and carefully head up the first
    long straight road, alternately cursing the digital speedo[1] and the
    speed limit. First roundabout approaches and a cnut driving a bus
    takes his own sweet time maneouvering his mobile roadblock
    around. That's going to get a bit ttiiiiiiiiigght. Common sense gets
    the better of me and rather hastily apply the anchors. Nice,
    controlable even in the wet, the bike stops unflustered. Rather unlike
    the rider...

    After a second's worth of a breather I follow the bus around the
    roundabout; bad move, as it's belching diesel fumes of such vile
    blackness that they would make the captain of an RN destroyer
    proud. Aha, dual carriageway, let's get past this buggeraaaaaa. OK,
    the gearing is slightly shorter than on the ST so it shifts nicely
    when you turn the 'loud' grip. Oh, and being new, the grip turns a lot
    easier, too. Which means that once I deciphered that speedo again and
    find I'm doing *eeek* miles over the limit, I quickly apply the
    anchors again before I make the aquaintance of some of Her Majesty's

    Slowing down for the next roundabout produces a nice cascade of
    backfires through the exhaust which suit the bike nicely. Thanks to a
    pair of terminally stupid car drivers I can't filter past them as the
    bike is ever so slightly wider than a postage stamp. Nor can they get
    their act together and move off. Finally, they spy a gap that's just
    about big enough for five busses and they move off. Sloooooooowly. Got
    to get past them, because that's plainly ridiculous, not to mention
    dangerous - I can't get out of first gear when I stay behind them, but
    the wobble about so much that I hesitate to go for the next gap (those
    two grand again). Finally I've had enough, spy a gap and give it some
    beans. Smaller can of beans next time, please, thinks I as I try to
    carefully lower the front wheel back to Mother Earth. At least clumsy
    here gets it back down without making a hash of it and disappears up
    onto the M25.

    A rather boring ride to Canary Wharf convinces me that this bike needs
    a louder exhaust. Not on the antisocial side of loud, but just a tad
    more fruity. As it is, the noise of the exhaust is out-droned by the
    cooling fan, so the whole package gives off the impression of someone
    talking the talk and not able to walk the walk. Which is a bit of a
    pity simply because I found it a competent bike - not one that
    triggers an immediate "want" but it's quite, errmm, nice to ride. Oh,
    and did I mention it was green?

    [1] Bad idea IMHO as I take longer to decipher the speedo than
    glancing at a needle to check the approximate direction it's pointing
    Timo Geusch, Aug 29, 2003
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    So he's a "cnut" because your lack of anticipation that a large vehicle
    might use a lot of the road to get around a roundabout? And even though
    he was doing it slowly (which I read as "carefully, giving lots of time
    for numpty twats to realise what the score is") you got flustered.

    You're the "cnut".
    Ben Blaney, Aug 29, 2003
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    Kiran Guest

    I was thinking that, but I'm not **** enough to say it.
    Kiran, Aug 29, 2003
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    Kiran Guest


    And many bikers are "fucking idle, or crap" also. [1]

    [1] I may or may not be in this category. Blaney definitely is tho [2]

    [2] Clue: He's not crap.
    Kiran, Aug 29, 2003
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    I like it up here. I feel taller.
    I'd take issue with "many", and suggest "some" as a replacement.

    And in Timo's case, his side of the story sounds like it was his
    (Timo's) lack of anticipation, because he'd already described how the
    "cnut" took "his own sweet time maneouvering". That doesn't sound like
    he (the bus driver) was idle, or crap, to me.

    In essence, it's a bit like taxi drivers, isn't it? It's easy to label
    them because they're easy to identify, not because they're empirically
    worse drivers (in the case of LGV drivers, they're empirically better
    drivers). When we're cut up by a car, we don't even register it. When
    we're cut up by a car that has a taxi sign on it, we immediately launch
    into an anti-taxi driver rant.
    Ben Blaney, Aug 29, 2003
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    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Bacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Ben Blaney
    Aha! The old "well reasoned argument" tactic, eh? :^)

    I know what you mean, but I do get pissed off with the "might is right"
    brigade. The type that just sail out on a roundabout because they can,
    or take three lanes because they're too lazy to swing the wheel or
    change a gear.

    And as for empirically better drivers? Well, on the day they took the
    test, yes. ;^)

    ZZR1100 and Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner" (No , I'm
    not sure how that happened either).
    Nigel Eaton, Aug 29, 2003
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Oh, yeah, sure.

    Sailing out on to a roundabout just because they can is an example I
    won't defend, though I have done it myself. All I can say is that a
    very heavy, slow, long vehicle is very difficult to get from 0 to 10mph.
    You might have three gearchanges, for example. Especially if the
    traffic is very heavy and there aren't any big spaces So, to avoid
    waiting ten minutes and causing a massive queue (thus pissing off lots
    of people) in the past I have sailed out and pissed off one person.

    Next time you see an HGV taking a wide swing at a turn (and, it'll more
    likely be a rigid than an artic, as rigids have bigger turning circles)
    have a look at where its back wheels end up. You might be surprised
    that that "lazy" turn was in fact absolutely necessary to avoid mounting
    the kerb.
    In terms of accidents per mile driven HGV drivers are the best on the
    Ben Blaney, Aug 30, 2003
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    And car drivers in MK?
    Ben Blaney, Aug 30, 2003
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    SteveH Guest

    There's 2 kinds of driver in MK.

    There's the nutters that seem to just hope and pray the roundabouts are
    clear, and there's a nervy ones who spend ages looking for what they
    consider a 'safe' gap.

    Admittedly, I get pissed off with the former just as much as I do the
    HGV drivers, there's nothing worse than having to stamp on the brakes
    when you're going for it round a roundabout.

    It's just that it's easier to steer round a cage than it is a 40-ft
    SteveH, Aug 30, 2003
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Supermarket managers in <insert placename here> are exceptionally lazy -
    sometimes the shelves aren't fully stocked, and there aren't enough
    checkouts open, and there's no chicory.
    But you, Lozzo, have eyes, ears, a brain and roadsense. You rely on
    your own thoughts and experiences instead of falling back on the same
    old tired cliches without considering it, such as SteveH so elegantly
    demonstrated. I'm not surprised that your views differ on this topic.
    Ben Blaney, Aug 30, 2003
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    SteveH Guest

    MK seems to bring out the worst in 'em - probably because it's a bit of
    a PITA driving an HGV in MK.

    Or maybe it's just that there's so many roundabouts that you have to hit
    the anchors to avoid an HGV pulling out on an almost daily basis.
    SteveH, Aug 30, 2003
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    It's easier to get a cage round a roundabout that it is a 40-ft trailer.
    That's why they do it.

    Have a chat to some of the delivery drivers at your place sometime.
    They'll have seen it all. They'll be able to explain why every
    grievance you have is churlish, and tell you where/when and how you, as
    a car driver, are being really fucking inconsiderate to them. And I bet
    you are, not because you mean to, but because you have no clue what it's
    Ben Blaney, Aug 30, 2003
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    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Bacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Ben Blaney
    Ummm. Yes, OK, I'll buy that. I'd argue that you're a thinking man, and
    most times it's done it's not to avoid pissing off a queue, but to avoid
    pissing off a trucker (the one at the wheel). But OK.
    No, I'm not talking (typing?) about that, I'm talking about the cavalier
    carving across lanes, because not to do so would take a little effort. I
    know that a rigid LGV can't turn like a Metro, but a lot of guys make a
    real meal of it.
    Interesting. Source?

    ZZR1100 and Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner" (No , I'm
    not sure how that happened either).
    Nigel Eaton, Aug 30, 2003
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    You so ably demonstrate what I was saying, though you're not aware of
    it. Next time you nearly T-bone a car, you won't even remember it five
    minutes later.
    Ben Blaney, Aug 30, 2003
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    SteveH Guest

    OK, I can appreciate why it's a bit of a bugger driving an HGV, and
    generally I will make exceptions for them, 'cos I can see on a daily
    basis the hassle involved in driving them.

    But just ploughing onto a roundabout and cutting people up is fucking
    dangerous - the H8/V11 roundabout here is the worst for it - there's
    loads of time's I've had to go from nearly knee-down to bolt upright in
    a split second to steer round an HGV that can't be arsed to stop.
    SteveH, Aug 30, 2003
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    There are a lot of wankers out on the road.
    I make a real meal of it. I hate rigids.
    I made it up, of course!

    No, seriously, I'm sure I read it somewhere credible.
    Ben Blaney, Aug 30, 2003
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    SteveH Guest

    I can imagine that dealing with a roundabout every few hundred yards in
    an HGV isn't fun.

    In a just managed to get it into 8th gear before having to brake and
    drop it back down to 1st again sort of way.
    SteveH, Aug 30, 2003
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    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Bacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, SteveH


    <hops over fence>

    Steve, mate...

    "Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy

    In other words, if this happens a lot, WTF are you "nearly knee-down" in
    the first place?

    <compromises and sits squarely on fence>

    Cor, dunnarf hurt yer bum, dunnit?

    ZZR1100 and Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner" (No , I'm
    not sure how that happened either).
    Nigel Eaton, Aug 30, 2003
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    Lozzo Guest

    SteveH fascinated us all by saying...
    Multi-lane roads criss-crossing a well signed area with industrial
    estates clearly marked and with adequate slip-roads onto the main
    arterial routes. It must be hell driving an HGV around MK, especially
    with the lack of traffic congestion and the abundnce of wide and well
    marked roundabouts to negotiate.
    Lozzo, Aug 30, 2003
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    SteveH Guest

    Becuase there's a couple of ****-off big roundabouts near me that are
    just asking for it, and it's just about the only place I have the
    confidence to lean the bike that far.
    SteveH, Aug 30, 2003
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