Today's demonstration

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by stephen.packer, Mar 26, 2011.

  1. Yawn.
     
    stephen.packer, Mar 26, 2011
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    ginge Guest

    I never imagined that the queue for the Ipad2 would get so long.
     
    ginge, Mar 26, 2011
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    Salad Dodger Guest

    Not many.

    Has the monotreme gone, as part of his alter ego, Student Grant out of
    Viz?
     
    Salad Dodger, Mar 26, 2011
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I thought he'd moved on from that phase?
     
    Andy Bonwick, Mar 26, 2011
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    ogden Guest

    Or Millie Tant of this parish, if her gammy leg so allows.
     
    ogden, Mar 26, 2011
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    You'll surely rot in hell for that comment.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Mar 26, 2011
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    ogden Guest

    Hell will make a nice change of scenery from the inside of this flat.

    Getting very bored now.
     
    ogden, Mar 26, 2011
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  8. Harsh, but fair.

    Her twitter feed's a scream isn't it?
     
    stephen.packer, Mar 26, 2011
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  9. Well 400,000 according to reports.

    UK Uncut causing trouble and many shops smashed up. I'd issue rubber
    bullets to the police to sort the scum out.
    Heaven only knows. Solidarity.
     
    stephen.packer, Mar 26, 2011
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    ogden Guest

    I unfollowed it a long time ago.
     
    ogden, Mar 26, 2011
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    Salad Dodger Guest

    Ah. I suspect Sir is unfamiliar with the estuarine term "not many"
    signifying that one consurred with Sir's initial conjecture.

    Apologies for the confusion, old bean.
     
    Salad Dodger, Mar 26, 2011
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  12. Oh, not at all.

    I thought Sir meant not many (lots) of yawns. Consequently ones follow
    up was meant to be a humourous misunderstanding of both Sir's intention
    and use of language. One seems to have spectactularly failed at both.
    Piss flaps.
     
    stephen.packer, Mar 26, 2011
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    ogden Guest

    Just looked at it out of curiosity.

    "I'm in a wheelchair pushed by an irate irishman. I have a giraffe. The
    giraffe has a placard. If you see me say hello"

    Good grief.
     
    ogden, Mar 26, 2011
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  14. I wonder why the Irishman was irate?

    And re the demonstration... There's a picture on BBC News, what a bunch
    of fucking freeloading losers.
     
    stephen.packer, Mar 26, 2011
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  15. All 250,000 of them?[1]

    They would disagree and those who have been given 10 seconds reasoned
    debate time in front of a microphone as well seem very much of the opinion
    that freeloaders is what they ain't. Their point, as I see and hear them
    argue it, is that they are the real wealth earners. They are the ones who
    actually pay their taxes. I'll grant you that there have been a few more
    about whom you only have the honesty of the media upon which to base your
    judgment as to their motives as they don't get to speak but even plod said
    there weren't so many of them undesirables[1] that they couldn't deal with
    it.


    [1] I haven't got a clue about the numbers.
     
    steve auvache, Mar 26, 2011
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    ginge Guest

    The problem as I see it is that there are 3 groups of "protestors".

    1 The protestors with a valid case to make, protesting about cuts in
    public services like respite care, health, children's servces, etc.
    and taking an altruistic stance. They've actually got a pretty
    legitimate and coherent argument.

    2 The protestors complaining that admin jobs are being consolidated,
    benefits aren't so good, and they're goung to have to retire at 67
    now, and the banks should all be taxed a billionty dozen percent.
    They've much less of a case, times are hard, and rules can't be
    changed retrospectively.

    3 Trouble making anarchists, waving red and black flags, tagging onto
    the label of protest, but explicitly going out there to cause criminal
    damage and public nuisance. They should just be napalmed.
     
    ginge, Mar 26, 2011
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    Stephen Guest

    Wouldn't know. I was referring to those in the picture.

    What I've read of UK Uncut and their ilk gives me a low opinion of
    them. Expecting others to provide for them.
    What a load of bloody bullshit. "They pay their taxes" so do the rest
    of us, and considerably more than most of those fuckers.
     
    Stephen, Mar 27, 2011
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    Stephen Guest

    And many of those have an axe to grind; a political axe, being more
    concerned about the politics than the reality.

    As you say below, times are hard based on 10 years of unsustainable
    growth of public services, an artificial boom; things need to change
    and that includes the level of public services it is reasonable to
    expect.

    Quite; well no case at all really.
    Absolutely.
     
    Stephen, Mar 27, 2011
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  19. I wholeheartedly agree. I get problems when a lot of fuss is made about a
    very few when their impact is relatively minor. I have been listening to
    the numbers over the day and it seems likely to be a total of around 200
    arrests over the whole day's events. 10 of those will be special branch
    another handful will have parents in the right lodge and will go to their
    grave racked with guilt that they never found out why they weren't charged
    like they should have been.. By the time the have finished it will look
    as though there was a hooligan to citizen peacefully exercising his rights
    ratio of getting on for 1:10000. Which probably means I would have been
    safer up there today than stating local and just walking round the shop
    for a pint of milk and a packet of skins.


    It seems this may not be the case. Rumours are sweeping the bars where
    the media gets its facts that some of "the rest of us" might not be being
    as absolutely straightforward with the rest of us as we might like and
    something approaching 25billion squids of collectable taxes are being
    avoided and or evaded by some of the rest of us whose number may well be
    more than 1 in 10,000.

    I have always felt that more is only valid in this context when used to
    consider proportion and anything else is just a demonstration of
    vulgarity.
     
    steve auvache, Mar 27, 2011
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  20. Smash capitalism?? Never. It needs treating like a bonsai. Confine it
    to boundaries we set and bend it to the will of the people.

    One of the very points the demonstrators were trying to make. It is their
    argument that there are 2 dozens of billions of money to help with
    restoring the battered buildings and still change left over to prevent a
    play school closing and that as responsible tax paying ordinary working
    joes they feel that they have borne the burden enough and that it is well
    past time for those who have not been exercising their responsibilities to
    anti up and pay their way.

    I have always accepted the basic premise that a sliding tax scale is the
    right way to go with folks getting stung harder and harder the more they
    earn and thus proportionally they pay more. It is totally inappropriate
    for someone earning 5 times what you earn to pay only twice as much tax.


    If it is seen as one then attempt would not be the correct way to describe
    it.
     
    steve auvache, Mar 27, 2011
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