Tories tackle speed camera rules

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by CT, Dec 30, 2003.

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    CT Guest

    "Thousands of motorists could be spared bans under Tory plans
    to axe penalty points for many speeding offences.
    Shadow transport secretary Damian Green said many drivers caught by
    speed cameras should face only fines, not points on their licences."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3355879.stm
     
    CT, Dec 30, 2003
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    The Older Gentleman Guest


    And again the Tories **** up a golden opportunity. All *that* does is
    make speeding a rich man's charter.

    "I earn a million and own a Porsche. I can afford to speed."

    "My company pays any speeding tickets I incur in the firm's BMW."

    "I'm an MP/Government Minister/Councillor - I've been granted
    exemption...."

    Cunts.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 30, 2003
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    Sean Doherty Guest

    Very sensible. I've no problem with paying a speeding tax, so long as
    my license stays clean.
     
    Sean Doherty, Dec 30, 2003
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    The Older Gentleman Guest


    So some poor skint bod on a beat-up old 400cc bike gets penalised
    because he can't afford to pay, while a Ferrari-running play
    doesn't?.....

    Now, a properly means-tested fine system might make sense. Remember that
    millionaire in Finland (IIRC) who got hit by a four grand fine or
    something?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 30, 2003
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    CT Guest

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    It's a dilemma. I was tempted to think "same crime, same fine", but
    it does obviously penalise the less well-off.

    I certainly don't mind not getting any points, though.
    Possibly, but a 4k fine for a millionaire is equally useless, IMO.

    I think the Tories would only be on a winner if they said they would
    reduce (or at least not increase) speed camera numbers and increase
    TrafPol back to levels where bad & dangerous driving was detected
    more frequently.
     
    CT, Dec 30, 2003
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    mups Guest

    No doubt it will be taken to its logical conclusion. The whole speeding
    fine set-up will be privatised and you will have to give your bank details
    when applying for a license.

    Fines could be set based on the time of day,so that 50 in a 30 at 8:45am
    would be a couple of hundred quid but only a tenner at 4:00am. Then there'd
    be the January sales, 2 for 1 offers...
     
    mups, Dec 30, 2003
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    Steve Parry Guest

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    bit higher than four grand TOG

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1759791.stm

    seems the rule is 14 days income

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    http://wrexhamseals.tripod.com
     
    Steve Parry, Dec 30, 2003
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    sweller Guest


    Once again shows the Tories for what they are.

    Those who have a bit of cash can speed inappropriately without fear of
    having the privilege of driving revoked.

    It would be better to keep the current points and fine system and
    *appropriate* cameras. Schools, residential areas, roadworks etc. Loose
    the cameras on the straight NSL roads.

    The political debate should be on what constitutes appropriate.
     
    sweller, Dec 30, 2003
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    sweller Guest

    *running* one does ...
     
    sweller, Dec 30, 2003
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    Steve Parry Guest

    Steve Parry, Dec 30, 2003
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    Steve Guest

    Very sensible. I've no problem with paying a speeding tax, so long as
    my license stays clean.[/QUOTE]


    So some poor skint bod on a beat-up old 400cc bike gets penalised
    because he can't afford to pay, while a Ferrari-running play
    doesn't?.....[/QUOTE]

    Surely, owning a fast car doesn't necessarily mean that you are affluent...?

    Steve
     
    Steve, Dec 30, 2003
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    Pip Guest

    Motorway gantry sign of the future:

    ----------------------------------------------
    | POOR | MIDDLE | BIKES | TOFFS |
    | PEOPLE | CLASS | | AND |
    | ONLY | AND | | EKS |
    | | CLOC | | ONLY |
    | 70MPH | | WGAF? | |
    | MAXIMUM | 20-56MPH | | G.L.F. |
    | | | | |
     
    Pip, Dec 30, 2003
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    Cab Guest

    On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 11:06:31 -0000, "Steve Parry"
    <> bored us all completely to
    death with wittery prose along the lines of:

    On a bloody Hardley!!!
     
    Cab, Dec 30, 2003
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    Chris H Guest

    Which is a typical cynical Tory idea. You can't tax bikers and cage
    drivers if they're banned.
     
    Chris H, Dec 30, 2003
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    Chris H Guest

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    Perhaps a system based upon the carbon dioxide emissions, like the
    company car tax system?

    This would favour 4-stroke 200cc streamliners.
     
    Chris H, Dec 30, 2003
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    Steve Parry Guest

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    but he had to do it in a 30 zone


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    Steve Parry, Dec 30, 2003
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    Chris H Guest

    Which is a typical cynical Tory idea. You can't tax bikers and cage
    drivers if they're banned.
     
    Chris H, Dec 30, 2003
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    Mash Guest

    I've never voted in my life, but this is something which would get me up off
    of my arse.
     
    Mash, Dec 30, 2003
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    Steve Parry Guest

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    .... only if they promised to reduce the number of cameras as well
    though



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    Steve Parry, Dec 30, 2003
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    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, CT
    It may just be worth remembering and reflecting on who introduced the
    fucking things in the first place.
     
    Nigel Eaton, Dec 30, 2003
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