Touring tyres

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Catman, May 9, 2007.

  1. Catman

    Catman Guest

    Oh font, what does one recommend for touring? I have BT020s on the
    Sprint ATM, but frankly, although I liked them on the Speed Triple, they
    seem a bit twitchy on the Sprint, especially in the wet :(

    So, for mostly boring motorway with some suburban stuff, nice and long
    lasting, what do I go for?

    TIA
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    Catman, May 9, 2007
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  2. Catman

    Beav Guest

    Loz suggested Avon Azaro III's (which I got) and they've been perect for the
    intended job. They've dropped them ow though and brought out the replacement
    which are supposed to be grippier AND longer lasting.

    The Azaro's have done over 7000 miles and they're still going strong on the
    Zed btw.

    Others don't rate them, but they ride pure sports bikes and they ride a bit
    quicker than me, so maybe they're not suited to a pure sprotbike.


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    Beav, May 9, 2007
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  3. Catman

    Ofnuts Guest


    This is my typical ride and I got Pilot Road. Good grip, above average
    in the wet, and very long lasting.
     
    Ofnuts, May 9, 2007
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  4. Catman

    Catman Guest

    I couldn't ride a pure sportsbike if my life depended on it, so no biggy
    there, thanks for the feedback

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    Suzuki Bandit 600
    Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see.
    www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
     
    Catman, May 10, 2007
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  5. Catman

    Catman Guest

    2 votes for pilots then, TY

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    Suzuki Bandit 600
    Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see.
    www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
     
    Catman, May 10, 2007
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  6. Catman

    Pip Guest

    My RF came with 020s fitted. I thought they were OK, having had them
    on my Bandit 12 before, by choice. Wettigrippers they weren't,
    however.

    When the time came I had Azaro IIIs fitted and after an initial bit of
    arseyness they were fine - once scrubbed in, like. Much finer in the
    wettigripper, lasting like forever. Bearing in mind the RF is a damn
    heavy old lump of pig iron, has 140bhp at the rear wheel and was used
    reasonably hard, I'd have expected the 1mm deep telltale groove (for
    the free replacement in case of an early puncture) to disappear in
    short order. In over 3000 miles it hasn't.

    There's still ~6mm of tread all across the rear and little sign of
    wear to the front. Turns in better than on 020s as well, which was an
    unexpected bonus, the RF being a bit strong in the understeery stakes.
    First name terms with a couple of the local grass verges strong, in
    fact. Bargain.

    I'd not hesitate to go the Avon route again, and will do on the B12
    once the currently-fitted 020s are shagged.
     
    Pip, May 10, 2007
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  7. Catman

    SD Guest

    Almost the exact mirror of my feelings, then.
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    SD, May 10, 2007
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  8. Just got a BT 021 fitted to the back end of my fazer and it feels much
    nicer than the old 020 did.
     
    Sean Hamerton, May 10, 2007
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  9. Catman

    Pip Guest

    It is documented, yes. It's as it came to me, with a Dynojet, K&N and
    a can on it. Dunno if there's anything else.
    I thought you'd clocked the dyno chart that came with the paperwork,
    at the time of purchase.
    It certainly has plenty of torque - from memory of the dyno print, it
    hits about 70lb/ft at 2500rpm and then stays flat across the sheet.
     
    Pip, May 10, 2007
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  10. Catman

    Pip Guest

    Is it the feel, the 'walking about' you don't like? I wouldn't go
    back to 020s again on the basis of wet grip alone - the (lack of) wear
    to the Avons is just a bonus. Different strokes for different bikes,
    I guess.
     
    Pip, May 10, 2007
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  11. Catman

    SaladDodger Guest

    The "walkabout" phenomenon is very irritating, and riding around town
    exposes me to it more than normal, I guess. It's also squared off
    quicker then an 020, and wear rate seems greater overall.

    That said, the AV46 is a revelation after the AV50 I had on the back,
    and light years ahead of the AM42 I'm currently enduring on the back
    of the Wing.

    As it moves from tread to groove to tread, it almost feels like I'm
    riding on cobbles at low speed.
     
    SaladDodger, May 10, 2007
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  12. Catman

    Catman Guest

    Ta


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    Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 75 TS 156 TS S2
    Suzuki Bandit 600
    Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see.
    www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
     
    Catman, May 10, 2007
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  13. Catman

    Catman Guest

    Pip wrote:
    Excellent, ta

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    Suzuki Bandit 600
    Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see.
    www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
     
    Catman, May 10, 2007
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  14. Catman

    Pip Guest

    heh. Lest we forget, the first job I did on it was to replace the
    slipping clutch and install HD clutch springs which turned out to be
    excellent physio for the fucked wrist. Dynos, of course, are as
    effective a comparator as licking a finger and sticking it in the air.
    Handling was much better on the possibly rounder Avons, still
    understeered unless led by a shoulder, backed up with half a buttock
    down the inside. The looks could only be improved by scrapping the
    bodywork entire and starting again.
     
    Pip, May 10, 2007
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  15. Catman

    Pip Guest

    <shrugs>

    How about "Get a standard bike in, do a 'before' dyno run. Jet/can
    bike, have a coffee ... oops, I appear to have slipped near the
    calibration screw, never mind - perform 'after' test: Oh look, it's
    gained dollops of power, aren't we good, that'll be three hundred
    nicker Sonny". Ahem.
    It never hung around. Horrendously uncomfortable, always felt like it
    would spit me into Hertfordshire if I took the beady off it: but fast
    as **** (relatively speaking, at least).
    It'll be back on the road shortly. I may well drop the front a bit
    and see, 'cos taht's easy and raising the rear requires dogbones
    making (in a bizarre mixture, 5mm shorter per inch raise required).
    SFA to be done with 'em though. They work OK as crash bungs, mind.
     
    Pip, May 10, 2007
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  16. Catman

    Hog Guest

    and we know that making dogbones requires some care, don't we children
     
    Hog, May 10, 2007
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  17. Catman

    Krusty Guest

    I suspect the dyno was telling huge great porkies in this case. 125 at
    the crank would typically be 110 at the wheel, meaning the filter & can
    gave an extra 30hp (or 27%). I really don't believe that.


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    Krusty, May 10, 2007
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  18. Catman

    Krusty Guest

    Was that the 'official' explanation then?

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    Krusty, May 10, 2007
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    Hog Guest

     
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    Pip Guest

     
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