Touring tyres

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Catman, May 9, 2007.

  1. Catman

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    Pip, May 10, 2007
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    Hog, May 10, 2007
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  3. Catman

    Pip Guest

    Cage fighters - pah!

    They said I'd be unable to ride a bike with a clutch, you know - never
    pull the lever in. **** 'em. I could outcrush Len Ganley three
    months later, thanks to that clutch.
     
    Pip, May 10, 2007
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  4. Catman

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    Krusty, May 10, 2007
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    dog Guest

    it's a pansy clutch.

    also, you have to hold it in when you start the bike for some ridiculous
    reason, whether you're in neutral or not.
     
    dog, May 10, 2007
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  6. Catman

    Krusty Guest

    That's good then. The 955 Tiger's not /too/ bad (but stiffer than the
    hydraulic clutch on the old Tiger). I'd hate to think the pending
    transplant will leave me with a clutch I can't cope with.
    Same as the Tig, & damned annoying it can be too.

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    Krusty, May 10, 2007
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  7. Catman

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    Hog, May 10, 2007
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  8. What is this walking about of which you speak?
     
    steve auvache, May 10, 2007
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  9. Ain't that the truth. The RF900 was the cheapest way of doing 165mph,
    12-13 years ago.

    Reasonably light, too, though still about 20kg heavier than the Blade.

    But definitely built down to a price.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 10, 2007
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  10. Catman

    Krusty Guest

    That I agree with 100%
    However that I'd question. One thing that's always struck me when
    having bike's (& cars) dyno'd is how hard the bike's strapped down, &
    how much of a variable that is. The harder you strap it down, the more
    power must be lost through tyre flex/friction, yet there never seems to
    be any consistency - they just crank the ratchet straps a few times.

    A hard tyre would reduce flexing, & thus give a higher reading *for the
    same strap tension*. But unless you use some kind of tension guage on
    the straps, I don't think you can state categorically that a hardened
    tyre caused the difference.
    Extra stiff sidewalls, perhaps?
    Indeed.

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    Krusty, May 10, 2007
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  11. Catman

    Hog Guest

    I'm sure the big race teams have some reliable method?
     
    Hog, May 10, 2007
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  12. I'd put my money on super-low rolling resistance, actually.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 10, 2007
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  13. Catman

    Pip Guest

    Ain't that the truth. The RF900 was the cheapest way of doing 165mph,
    12-13 years ago.[/QUOTE]

    For a bike that cost me 500 quid, it still is.
    Still managed to beat a Blade to the ton, by something enormous like
    0.1 according to contemporary road tests - or so I'm told.
    Suzuki parts bins 3, 5 and 8.
     
    Pip, May 10, 2007
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    Krusty Guest

    Dynos attached to the gearbox output shaft I would imagine. Wilcox
    Engineering use such a beast.

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    Krusty, May 10, 2007
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  15. Well of course but it costs more.


    Face it, given that credit cards magically keep the same weight
    regardless of their value most users of dyno testing stations would be
    better off paying in coin for their performance improvements and not
    bothering with the dyno at all. It feels as though it comes out at
    about the equivalent of a half to 2 thirds of an HP purr Kg.[1]


    [1] Bike and rider gross in at 0.3 to 0.25 Tonnes and HP around one and
    a half hundred for a shop bought aftermarketted sports bike?
     
    steve auvache, May 10, 2007
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  16. Catman

    Pip Guest

    You've gotta fit 'em to find out. At slow speeds and pulling away in
    traffic, the diagonal tread pattern that has half a dozen
    blocks'n'grooves one way, then the other, can make the arse end 'walk'
    from side to side. Just marginally, like a really slow weave. It is
    the biggest cause of complaint that I've heard about this particular
    tyre. Just makes me giggle a bit, but then I'm not at that sort of
    speed for long, being a denizen of the leafy lanes.

    You can see the tread in question at the bottom of this page:

    http://www.fwr.co.uk/avont.htm

    and here:

    http://www.streetbikereview.com/sbr_reviews/sbr_reviews_azaro_st.shtml
     
    Pip, May 10, 2007
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  17. Catman

    Krusty Guest

    I think I'm rather glad I wasn't there. My first dyno experience was
    getting the Porsche done, & one of the inter-cooler pipes came off with
    one hell of a bang. Nearly shat meself I did. I don't like being near
    dynos anymore.

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    Krusty, May 10, 2007
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  18. A bit?? It makes me fall on the floor.

    Well I am not a denizen of country lanes but I have seen plenty of
    riders on sprots bikes pulling away in traffic in my mirrors over my
    time and can confidently tell you it is not the tyre.
     
    steve auvache, May 10, 2007
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  19. Catman

    Beav Guest

    Thank Lozzo, not me, I just did what you did and asked and he recommended
    them based on how he guessed I ride. He was bob on too.


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    Beav, May 10, 2007
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  20. Catman

    Beav Guest

    Yeah, it's called the track:)


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    Beav, May 10, 2007
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