In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:22:28 -0700 (PDT) [QUOTE="JL"] And I have to say you have the most boring criteria I've ever heard to measure the usefulness of a modification. Riding in traffic is a tedious necessity and the least interesting riding you can possibly do, something to be avoided in preference to going for a hugely more interesting ride (that is anything other riding to work). How beige.[/QUOTE] I certainly wouldn't mod a bike for riding to work. I'd accessorise it for that though :) (Not that there are many accessories for the ride to work compared to touring.) The only really modded bike I have, the Yam, was made that way as a hoonbike although it does traffic quite happily. I do a lot of riding to work. But if I make a bike non-stock it's usually for all the other kind of riding I do. And as for people who really do fabrication, like Phil, he does it for hooning purposes only. Except maybe for the 250 Goldstar roadbike which was done to prove he could. Zebee